From migo at supernet.com.pl  Thu Jan  2 23:21:02 2003
From: migo at supernet.com.pl (Bartosz Jakubski)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:21:02 +0100
Subject: [a chart]
In-Reply-To: <20021230105748.GY17485@szafa.it-zone.org>
References: <20021222205313.GO17485@szafa.it-zone.org> <Pine.LNX.4.51L.0212240009420.19048@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl> <20021229021453.GE17485@szafa.it-zone.org> <Pine.LNX.4.51L.0212291734080.12237@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl> <20021229164004.GK17485@szafa.it-zone.org> <Pine.LNX.4.51L.0212291832270.12237@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl> <20021229173955.GL17485@szafa.it-zone.org> <20021229200736.GA26844@anorak.localdomain> <20021230105748.GY17485@szafa.it-zone.org>
Message-ID: <20030102222102.GA5091@anorak.localdomain>

Dnia 30 gru o godzinie 11:57:48 +0100, Sergiusz Pawlowicz napisa?(a):
> --->[Quoting Bartosz Jakubski <migo at supernet.com.pl>:]
> 
>> It's frightening how many  people show this stupid attitude:
>> "If  you  cannot  do  this  better  you  have  no  right  to
>> criticize".
> 
> I love opinions without arguments.
> 

My opinion needs arguments? You got me: I don't have any.
How about asking some movie critic: "How dare you!"

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From ser at metalab.unc.edu  Mon Jan  6 21:22:39 2003
From: ser at metalab.unc.edu (Sergiusz Pawlowicz)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:22:39 +0100
Subject: [power outage at unc]
Message-ID: <20030106202239.GP15567@szafa.it-zone.org>

Sorry for the  short notice. UNC is  performing maintenance on
the  power infrastructure  in  our building  from  5-7 pm  EST
today. Our listserver will be off this time.


cheers - Sergiusz
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From dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de  Mon Jan 20 12:47:27 2003
From: dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de (Lukas Dobrek)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:47:27 +0100
Subject: lal
Message-ID: <20030120114727.GA20504@maldini.itp.uni-hannover.de>

jesli kiedys jakas dystrybucja linuxa dorobi sie czegos takiego 
to zaczne jej natychmiast urzywac :

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/relnotes-i386.html

ld


-- 
?ukasz Dobrek
   An optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds.
   A pessimist is sure that this must be so.
http://www.pld-linux.org


From dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de  Mon Jan 20 13:54:13 2003
From: dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de (Lukas Dobrek)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:54:13 +0100
Subject: lal
In-Reply-To: <20030120114727.GA20504@maldini.itp.uni-hannover.de>
References: <20030120114727.GA20504@maldini.itp.uni-hannover.de>
Message-ID: <20030120125413.GA21271@maldini.itp.uni-hannover.de>

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:47:27PM +0100, Lukas Dobrek wrote:
> jesli kiedys jakas dystrybucja linuxa dorobi sie czegos takiego 
> to zaczne jej natychmiast urzywac :
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/relnotes-i386.html
> 
> ld
sorry it was intended to be send to polish version of this list. 

Anyway this was just the statement: 
if any linux distro has something like this:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/relnotes-i386.html,

I'll start using it. 
ld
-- 
?ukasz Dobrek
   An optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds.
   A pessimist is sure that this must be so.
http://www.pld-linux.org


From kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl  Mon Jan 20 22:41:02 2003
From: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:41:02 +0100 (CET)
Subject: lal
In-Reply-To: <20030120114727.GA20504@maldini.itp.uni-hannover.de>
References: <20030120114727.GA20504@maldini.itp.uni-hannover.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301202237520.12058@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Lukas Dobrek wrote:

> jesli kiedys jakas dystrybucja linuxa dorobi sie czegos takiego 
> to zaczne jej natychmiast urzywac :
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/relnotes-i386.html

Zamierzasz to dorobi? czy ma to by? tylko uwagfa typu "dobzre zeby?my cos 
takiego dorobili, a ja sobie odpoczn?" ? :_)
?ukasz sam pr?bwa?e? dorobi? tekst anonsu do 1.0 .. wiesz chyba ju?, ?e 
nie jest to tak proste mna jakie mog?oby wygl?da? (?).

Inaczje .. jak PLD b?dzie istnia?o tyle co FreeBSD i nie b?dzie mia?o
czego? por?wnywalnego to na pewno bedziesz m?g? powidzi?? ?e?my cieniasy 
:)

kloczek
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-----------------------------------------------------------
*Ludzie nie maj? problem?w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj?*
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tomasz K?oczko, sys adm @zie.pg.gda.pl|*e-mail: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl*


From lukasz at lt.wsisiz.edu.pl  Tue Jan 21 00:25:06 2003
From: lukasz at lt.wsisiz.edu.pl (Lukasz Trabinski)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:25:06 +0100
Subject: lal
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301202237520.12058@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <200301202325.h0KNP63Y004301@lt.wsisiz.edu.pl>

In article <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301202237520.12058 at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> you wrote:
> 
> Zamierzasz to dorobi? czy ma to by? tylko uwagfa typu "dobzre zeby?my cos 
> takiego dorobili, a ja sobie odpoczn?" ? :_)

Inaczej, Partia Leniwych Developer?w? :)


-- 
*[ ?ukasz 'OffTopic' Tr?bi?ski ]*


From radek at media-com.com.pl  Tue Jan 21 10:56:50 2003
From: radek at media-com.com.pl (Radoslaw Kojdecki)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:56:50 +0100 (CET)
Subject: lal
In-Reply-To: <200301202325.h0KNP63Y004301@lt.wsisiz.edu.pl>
References: <200301202325.h0KNP63Y004301@lt.wsisiz.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301211056020.8536-100000@beorn.media-com.com.pl>

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Lukasz Trabinski wrote:

> In article <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301202237520.12058 at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> you wrote:
> > 
> > Zamierzasz to dorobi? czy ma to by? tylko uwagfa typu "dobzre zeby?my cos 
> > takiego dorobili, a ja sobie odpoczn?" ? :_)
> 
> Inaczej, Partia Leniwych Developer?w? :)

pld-devel-en at pld.org.pl
          ^^

rgrdz,

RK
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From wrobell at ite.pl  Wed Jan 22 15:20:26 2003
From: wrobell at ite.pl (wrobell)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:20:26 +0100
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
Message-ID: <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 02:50:22PM +0100, cieciwa wrote:
> Module name:	SPECS
> Changes by:	cieciwa	03/01/22 14:50:20
> 
> Modified files:
> 	glibc.spec
> 
> Log message:
> - added %%{_kernel_ver_str} to release.

[...]

> +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}

Why?

[...]

    wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>


From cieciwa at alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl  Wed Jan 22 16:14:11 2003
From: cieciwa at alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl (Wojciech "Sas" Cieciwa)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:14:11 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, wrobell wrote:
[...]
> > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> 
> Why?
> 
Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4 

POzdrawiam
					Sas.
-- 
{Wojciech 'Sas' Cieciwa}  {Member of PLD Team                               }
{e-mail: cieciwa at alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl, http://www2.zarz.agh.edu.pl/~cieciwa}


From jack at jack.eu.org  Wed Jan 22 16:20:00 2003
From: jack at jack.eu.org (=?iso-8859-2?q?Jaros=B3aw=20Kamper?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:20:00 +0100
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl> <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
Message-ID: <200301221620.00711.jack@jack.eu.org>

Dnia Wednesday 22 of January 2003 15:20, wrobell napisa?:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 02:50:22PM +0100, cieciwa wrote:
> > Module name:	SPECS
> > Changes by:	cieciwa	03/01/22 14:50:20
> > Modified files:
> > 	glibc.spec
> > Log message:
> > - added %%{_kernel_ver_str} to release.
> > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> Why?

[jack at pldworkstation Pianista]$ poldek
Wczytywanie http://www.javart.com.pl/~mkochano/PLD/packages.dir.gz...
Wczytywanie 
ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/people/jack/Ra+2.4.19/i686/packages.dir.gz...
Wczytywanie 
ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/dists/ra/PLD/i686/PLD/RPMS/packages.dir.gz...
Wczytywanie 
ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/dists/ra/updates/security/i686/packages.dir.gz...
Wczytywanie 
ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/dists/ra/updates/general/i686/packages.dir.gz...
Przeczytano 5998 pakiet?w
Usuni?to 25 zdublowanych pakiet?w z listy dost?pnych
Wczytywanie /var/tmp/poldek-cache/packages.dir.dbcache.var.lib.rpm.gz...
Przeczytano 603 pakiety

Witaj w poldekowym trybie interaktywnym. Wpisz "help" aby otrzyma? pomoc.

poldek> ls glibc
glibc-2.2.5-22
poldek> quit

[jack at pldworkstation Pianista]$ poldek -n Ra+2.4.19 --shcmd 'ls glibc'
Wczytywanie 
ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/people/jack/Ra+2.4.19/i686/packages.dir.gz...
Przeczytano 126 pakiet?w
Wczytywanie /var/tmp/poldek-cache/packages.dir.dbcache.var.lib.rpm.gz...
Przeczytano 603 pakiety
glibc-2.2.5-22

[jack at pldworkstation Pianista]$ poldek -n ra --shcmd 'ls glibc'
Wczytywanie 
ftp://ftp.pld.org.pl/dists/ra/PLD/i686/PLD/RPMS/packages.dir.gz...
Przeczytano 5532 pakiety
Wczytywanie /var/tmp/poldek-cache/packages.dir.dbcache.var.lib.rpm.gz...
Przeczytano 603 pakiety
glibc-2.2.5-22

-- 
Jaros?aw Kamper <jack at jack.eu.org> http://jack.eu.org/


From wrobell at ite.pl  Wed Jan 22 16:40:09 2003
From: wrobell at ite.pl (wrobell)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:40:09 +0100
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl> <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <20030122154009.GK13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 04:14:11PM +0100, Wojciech Sas Cieciwa wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, wrobell wrote:
> [...]
> > > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > 
> > Why?
> > 

Words:
> Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4 
mean: To distinguish between glibc built with 2.2 or 2.4 kernel.

It is pld-devel-en!

What about e2fsprogs?

    wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>


From kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 18:14:37 2003
From: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:14:37 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Wojciech "Sas" Cieciwa wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, wrobell wrote:
> [...]
> > > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > 
> > Why?
> > 
> Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4 

Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..

kloczek
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
*Ludzie nie maj? problem?w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj?*
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tomasz K?oczko, sys adm @zie.pg.gda.pl|*e-mail: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl*


From blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 19:46:01 2003
From: blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Go=B3aszewski?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:46:01 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tomasz K?oczko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > > Why?
> > Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4
> Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..

dobrze jest.
Aktualnie wystarczy w Ra-Packu zapomnie? zrobi? upgrade glibca, ?eby 
musie? si? przy okazji fsck nie?le gimnastykowa?....

-- 
---------------------------------
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski        
---------------------------------
CPU not found - software emulation...


From ser at metalab.unc.edu  Wed Jan 22 20:08:03 2003
From: ser at metalab.unc.edu (Sergiusz Pawlowicz)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:08:03 +0100
Subject: [use enlglish!]
Message-ID: <20030122190803.GX3356@szafa.it-zone.org>

if you want to say something on *-EN list, use english!!


cheers - Sergiusz
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______________________________________________________________
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From kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 20:35:33 2003
From: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:35:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Pawe? Go?aszewski wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tomasz K?oczko wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > > > Why?
> > > Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4
> > Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..
> 
> dobrze jest.
> Aktualnie wystarczy w Ra-Packu zapomnie? zrobi? upgrade glibca, ?eby 
> musie? si? przy okazji fsck nie?le gimnastykowa?....

Mo?e i wystarczy w Ra-packu ale nie na HEAD.

kloczek
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
*Ludzie nie maj? problem?w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj?*
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tomasz K?oczko, sys adm @zie.pg.gda.pl|*e-mail: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl*


From blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 20:54:07 2003
From: blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Go=B3aszewski?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:54:07 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222052390.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tomasz K?oczko wrote:
> > > > > > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > > > > Why?
> > > > Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4
> > > Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..
> > dobrze jest. Aktualnie wystarczy w Ra-Packu zapomnie? zrobi? upgrade
> > glibca, ?eby musie? si? przy okazji fsck nie?le gimnastykowa?....
> Mo?e i wystarczy w Ra-packu ale nie na HEAD.

Potem si? pojawi 2.4 r?wnolegle z 2.5 i b?d? podobne szopki.
Do tego jeszcze pewnie 2.2 b?dzie mia?o d?ugi ?ywot (patrz? na to po 
w?asnych do?wiadczeniach... na 2 maszynach grzecznie do 2.2 wr?ci?em... 
chocia? brak iptables by? _bardzo_ bolesny)

-- 
---------------------------------
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski        
---------------------------------
CPU not found - software emulation...


From kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 21:11:47 2003
From: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:11:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222052390.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222052390.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222109241.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Pawe? Go?aszewski wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tomasz K?oczko wrote:
> > > > > > > +Release:	3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > > > > > Why?
> > > > > Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4
> > > > Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..
> > > dobrze jest. Aktualnie wystarczy w Ra-Packu zapomnie? zrobi? upgrade
> > > glibca, ?eby musie? si? przy okazji fsck nie?le gimnastykowa?....
> > Mo?e i wystarczy w Ra-packu ale nie na HEAD.
> 
> Potem si? pojawi 2.4 r?wnolegle z 2.5 i b?d? podobne szopki.
> Do tego jeszcze pewnie 2.2 b?dzie mia?o d?ugi ?ywot (patrz? na to po 
> w?asnych do?wiadczeniach... na 2 maszynach grzecznie do 2.2 wr?ci?em... 
> chocia? brak iptables by? _bardzo_ bolesny)

Je?eli mia?by? pod r?ka przebudowane potzrebne pakiety i wykona?by? 
upgrade w ca?os?i to io ?adnym bulu nie mog?o by by? mowy. Jezlie w takim 
razie s? jakie? k?opoty w Ra-pack to zestaw tych pakeit?w jest poprostu 
niekompletny bo pzrecie? wiadomo ?e takimi rzeczami wykonuj? si? 
inastalacjee/upgrade nie kawa?kami tylko w?a?nie w ca?o?ci.

kloczek
-- 
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*Ludzie nie maj? problem?w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj?*
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tomasz K?oczko, sys adm @zie.pg.gda.pl|*e-mail: kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl*


From blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 21:14:29 2003
From: blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Go=B3aszewski?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:14:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222109241.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222052390.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222109241.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222112590.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tomasz K?oczko wrote:
> > > > > > > > +Release: 3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > > > > > > Why?
> > > > > > Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4
> > > > > Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..
> > > > dobrze jest. Aktualnie wystarczy w Ra-Packu zapomnie? zrobi?
> > > > upgrade glibca, ?eby musie? si? przy okazji fsck nie?le
> > > > gimnastykowa?....
> > > Mo?e i wystarczy w Ra-packu ale nie na HEAD.
> > Potem si? pojawi 2.4 r?wnolegle z 2.5 i b?d? podobne szopki. Do tego
> > jeszcze pewnie 2.2 b?dzie mia?o d?ugi ?ywot (patrz? na to po w?asnych
> > do?wiadczeniach... na 2 maszynach grzecznie do 2.2 wr?ci?em...  
> > chocia? brak iptables by? _bardzo_ bolesny)
> Je?eli mia?by? pod r?ka przebudowane potzrebne pakiety i wykona?by?
> upgrade w ca?os?i to io ?adnym bulu nie mog?o by by? mowy. Jezlie w
> takim razie s? jakie? k?opoty w Ra-pack to zestaw tych pakeit?w jest
> poprostu niekompletny bo pzrecie? wiadomo ?e takimi rzeczami wykonuj?
> si? inastalacjee/upgrade nie kawa?kami tylko w?a?nie w ca?o?ci.

Moment - to po co mamy np. losetup czy mount wersjonowany?
Argumentacja mog?aby by? dok?adnie identyczna jak powy?ej.

nie t?dy droga - Pack-i by?y i b?d? koegzystowa?. Trzeba to u?atwi? sobie.

-- 
---------------------------------
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski        
---------------------------------
CPU not found - software emulation...


From dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de  Wed Jan 22 21:16:55 2003
From: dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de (Lukas Dobrek)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:16:55 +0100
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222112590.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl> <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222052390.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222109241.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222112590.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <20030122201655.GA3070@zibal.itp.uni-hannover.de>

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:14:29PM +0100, Pawe? Go?aszewski wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tomasz K?oczko wrote:
> > > > > > > > > +Release: 3@%{_kernel_ver_str}
> > > > > > > > Why?
> > > > > > > Zeby odroznic glibc budowanae na 2.2 od tego budowanego na 2.4
> > > > > > Bez wyg?up?w mo?e ..
> > > > > dobrze jest. Aktualnie wystarczy w Ra-Packu zapomnie? zrobi?
> > > > > upgrade glibca, ?eby musie? si? przy okazji fsck nie?le
> > > > > gimnastykowa?....
> > > > Mo?e i wystarczy w Ra-packu ale nie na HEAD.
> > > Potem si? pojawi 2.4 r?wnolegle z 2.5 i b?d? podobne szopki. Do tego
> > > jeszcze pewnie 2.2 b?dzie mia?o d?ugi ?ywot (patrz? na to po w?asnych
> > > do?wiadczeniach... na 2 maszynach grzecznie do 2.2 wr?ci?em...  
> > > chocia? brak iptables by? _bardzo_ bolesny)
> > Je?eli mia?by? pod r?ka przebudowane potzrebne pakiety i wykona?by?
> > upgrade w ca?os?i to io ?adnym bulu nie mog?o by by? mowy. Jezlie w
> > takim razie s? jakie? k?opoty w Ra-pack to zestaw tych pakeit?w jest
> > poprostu niekompletny bo pzrecie? wiadomo ?e takimi rzeczami wykonuj?
> > si? inastalacjee/upgrade nie kawa?kami tylko w?a?nie w ca?o?ci.
> 
> Moment - to po co mamy np. losetup czy mount wersjonowany?
> Argumentacja mog?aby by? dok?adnie identyczna jak powy?ej.
> 
> nie t?dy droga - Pack-i by?y i b?d? koegzystowa?. Trzeba to u?atwi? sobie.
> 
Check out header. This is english speaking list. 
-- 
?ukasz Dobrek
   An optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds.
   A pessimist is sure that this must be so.
http://www.pld-linux.org


From blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jan 22 21:37:49 2003
From: blues at ds6.pg.gda.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Go=B3aszewski?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:37:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: SPECS: glibc.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <20030122201655.GA3070@zibal.itp.uni-hannover.de>
References: <glibc.spec.1.264@cvs.pld.org.pl> <glibc.spec.1.265@cvs.pld.org.pl>
 <20030122142026.GH13296@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0301221613300.21038-100000@alpha.zarz.agh.edu.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301221814000.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301221945110.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222034580.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222052390.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.53L.0301222109241.8200@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222112590.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>
 <20030122201655.GA3070@zibal.itp.uni-hannover.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0301222137320.16166-100000@piorun.ds.pg.gda.pl>

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Lukas Dobrek wrote:
> Check out header. This is english speaking list. 

sorry :)

-- 
---------------------------------
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski        
---------------------------------
CPU not found - software emulation...


From wrobell at ite.pl  Fri Jan 24 09:35:17 2003
From: wrobell at ite.pl (wrobell)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:35:17 +0100
Subject: Build log: XFree86.spec
In-Reply-To: <E18bpgb-00076a-00@an2.kernel.pl>
References: <E18bpgb-00076a-00@an2.kernel.pl>
Message-ID: <20030124083516.GA31591@pred.posexperts.com.pl>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0000, PLD ppc builder wrote:
> Build request
>                  from: wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>
>            message-id: <285281324251.18969.builder at pred>
> started processing at: Thu Jan 23 22:28:43 CET 2003
> 
> Executing: /home/users/builder/rpm/SPECS/builder -c -bb -nu XFree86.spec
> 
> # $Revision: 1.369 $, $Date: 2003/01/19 11:31:21 $
> error: line 1831: Bad arg to %patch: %build
> 
> Error: package build failed.
Any hints? It is problem on ppc only as I see...

[...]

    wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>


From ankry at green.mif.pg.gda.pl  Fri Jan 24 09:44:18 2003
From: ankry at green.mif.pg.gda.pl (Andrzej Krzysztofowicz)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:44:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Build log: XFree86.spec
In-Reply-To: <20030124083516.GA31591@pred.posexperts.com.pl> from "wrobell" at Jan 24, 2003 09:35:17 AM
Message-ID: <200301240844.h0O8iIcM004247@green.mif.pg.gda.pl>

> 
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0000, PLD ppc builder wrote:
> > Build request
> >                  from: wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>
> >            message-id: <285281324251.18969.builder at pred>
> > started processing at: Thu Jan 23 22:28:43 CET 2003
> > 
> > Executing: /home/users/builder/rpm/SPECS/builder -c -bb -nu XFree86.spec
> > 
> > # $Revision: 1.369 $, $Date: 2003/01/19 11:31:21 $
> > error: line 1831: Bad arg to %patch: %build
> > 
> > Error: package build failed.
> Any hints? It is problem on ppc only as I see...

Maybe, the real problem is in 1788:

%ifarch ppc
%patch35        --new version required
%endif
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

-- 
=======================================================================
  Andrzej M. Krzysztofowicz               ankry at mif.pg.gda.pl
  phone (48)(58) 347 14 61
Faculty of Applied Phys. & Math.,   Gdansk University of Technology


From wrobell at ite.pl  Sat Jan 25 02:40:40 2003
From: wrobell at ite.pl (wrobell)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:40:40 +0100
Subject: nest, postgresql
Message-ID: <20030125014040.GA25966@pred.dk.org>

There will arrive postgresql 7.3.1 release 0.3 into nest/test soon.

The postgresql.sysconfig file has changed.

The db cluster list variable name changed from POSTGRES_DB_CLUSTERS to
PG_DB_CLUSTERS.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

    wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>
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From martii at obgyn.edu.pl  Sat Jan 25 18:17:15 2003
From: martii at obgyn.edu.pl (Marcin Chojnowski)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:17:15 +0100
Subject: Nest and openssl crap
Message-ID: <20030125171715.GA13886@obgyn.edu.pl>

Folks,

I'm trying to mention that we have new openssl in nest and many of the 
packages that require openssl libraries are still not ready.

My suggestion is to put all openssl dependant stuff for building.

In present situation rpm packages and poldek are useless for nest users.

Why is able to send all opensll dependent packages to builders ??

Martii


From wolf42 at wp.pl  Sun Jan 26 19:32:20 2003
From: wolf42 at wp.pl (Bartosz Taudul)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:32:20 +0100
Subject: Nest and openssl crap
In-Reply-To: <20030125171715.GA13886@obgyn.edu.pl>
References: <20030125171715.GA13886@obgyn.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <20030126183219.GB3336@bajzel>

On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:17:15PM +0100, Marcin Chojnowski wrote:
> I'm trying to mention that we have new openssl in nest and many of the 
> packages that require openssl libraries are still not ready.
True.

> In present situation rpm packages and poldek are useless for nest users.
You can have two versions of the same package installed.

[19:31 wolf at bajzel:~]% rpm -qa|grep openssl
openssl-0.9.6g-1
openssl-tools-0.9.6g-1
openssl-devel-0.9.6g-1
openssl-0.9.7-0.9

wolf
-- 
  Bartek   .  - Zasada superpozycji... nie, to nie z kamasutry.
  Taudul   :  
(temp. sig):....................................................................
    w o l f <at> p l d . o r g . p l           .:. http://team.pld.org.pl/~wolf/


From wrobell at ite.pl  Mon Jan 27 16:49:30 2003
From: wrobell at ite.pl (wrobell)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:49:30 +0100
Subject: SPECS: flac.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <flac.spec.1.15@cvs.pld.org.pl>
References: <flac.spec.1.14@cvs.pld.org.pl> <flac.spec.1.15@cvs.pld.org.pl>
Message-ID: <20030127154930.GB14997@pred.posexperts.com.pl>

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:43:20PM +0100, wrobell wrote:
> Module name:	SPECS
> Changes by:	wrobell	03/01/27 16:43:17
> 
> Modified files:
> 	flac.spec
> 
> Log message:
> - fixed build requirements
> 
> Index: flac.spec
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /cvsroot/SPECS/flac.spec,v
> diff -d -u -r1.14 -r1.15
> --- flac.spec	20 Jan 2003 09:11:20 -0000	1.14
> +++ flac.spec	27 Jan 2003 15:43:16 -0000	1.15
> @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@
>  BuildRequires:	automake
>  BuildRequires:	libogg-devel
>  BuildRequires:	libstdc++-devel
> -BuildRequires:	libtool >= 2:1.4d
> +BuildRequires:	libtool >= 1:1.4.3
I have changed Epoch to 1. Is there really any libtool package with Epoch set to 2?

[...]

    wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>


From qboosh at pld.org.pl  Mon Jan 27 16:53:35 2003
From: qboosh at pld.org.pl (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:53:35 +0100
Subject: SPECS: flac.spec (HEAD)
In-Reply-To: <20030127154930.GB14997@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
References: <flac.spec.1.14@cvs.pld.org.pl> <flac.spec.1.15@cvs.pld.org.pl> <20030127154930.GB14997@pred.posexperts.com.pl>
Message-ID: <20030127155335.GD10755@gruby.cs.net.pl>

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:49:30PM +0100, wrobell wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:43:20PM +0100, wrobell wrote:
> > Module name:	SPECS
> > Changes by:	wrobell	03/01/27 16:43:17
> > 
> > Modified files:
> > 	flac.spec
> > 
> > Log message:
> > - fixed build requirements
> > 
> > Index: flac.spec
> > ===================================================================
> > RCS file: /cvsroot/SPECS/flac.spec,v
> > diff -d -u -r1.14 -r1.15
> > --- flac.spec	20 Jan 2003 09:11:20 -0000	1.14
> > +++ flac.spec	27 Jan 2003 15:43:16 -0000	1.15
> > @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@
> >  BuildRequires:	automake
> >  BuildRequires:	libogg-devel
> >  BuildRequires:	libstdc++-devel
> > -BuildRequires:	libtool >= 2:1.4d
> > +BuildRequires:	libtool >= 1:1.4.3
> I have changed Epoch to 1. Is there really any libtool package with Epoch set to 2?

libtool 1.4{d,e} on DEVEL branch.
And it's needed to link libraries in C++ correctly (libtool 1.4.[0-2]
creates libraries not linked with libstdc++, which causes errors when
trying to link such library with plain C program).


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://www.cs.net.pl/~qboosh/


From martii at obgyn.edu.pl  Mon Jan 27 13:30:02 2003
From: martii at obgyn.edu.pl (Marcin Chojnowski)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:30:02 +0100
Subject: Nest and openssl crap
In-Reply-To: <20030126183219.GB3336@bajzel>
References: <20030125171715.GA13886@obgyn.edu.pl> <20030126183219.GB3336@bajzel>
Message-ID: <6060694373.20030127133002@obgyn.edu.pl>

Hello Bartosz,

Sunday, January 26, 2003, 7:32:20 PM, you wrote:

>> In present situation rpm packages and poldek are useless for nest users.
BT> You can have two versions of the same package installed.

BT> [19:31 wolf at bajzel:~]% rpm -qa|grep openssl
BT> openssl-0.9.6g-1
BT> openssl-tools-0.9.6g-1
BT> openssl-devel-0.9.6g-1
BT> openssl-0.9.7-0.9

right but it's not proper and nice solution. I don't like it ;)

-- 
Best regards,
 Marcin                            mailto:martii at obgyn.edu.pl