http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SOURCES/rpm-epoch0.patch should we still keep this patch? why it's needed in first place anyway? ps: i still see (old) packages built in ac without epoch: $ rpm -qa --qf '%{epoch}\n' |sort |uniq -c | sort -nr 997 0 196 1 69 9 50 (none) 48 2 31 3 18 5 17 4 17 10 15 6 7 8 4 7 3 13 -- glen