From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sun Jun  1 17:16:47 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:16:47 +0200
Subject: poldek + rpm
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806010816l40ae0126x5a0d4e14d66da79@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

This morning I do an upgrade and my system breaks once again. RPM got
upgraded to db4.7 leaving poldek useless before it had a chance to
upgrade poldek itself. Luckily I also have yum and smart installed.

Proposal:

In rpm.spec add Provides: rpm-db-ver = 4.7

In poldek.spec add Requires: rpm-db-ver = 4.7

This way we can force poldek to upgrade itself when upgrading rpm and
block rpm upgrades until a new poldek build is available. A better
solution would be to fix poldek to not read rpm internals directly but
I'm afraid it won't happen.

Any objections? If not, I will commit this change later today.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Jun  1 20:11:21 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:11:21 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
Message-ID: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Anybody can fix this?
http://www.wklej.org/id/29908b2bde
http://www.wklej.org/id/fa28ed5bb2

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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sun Jun  1 20:19:49 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:19:49 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806011119w3f46ab42tbfe2f833cfd385ef@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/1 Kamil Dziedzic <kamil.listy at klecza.pl>:
> Anybody can fix this?
> http://www.wklej.org/id/29908b2bde
> http://www.wklej.org/id/fa28ed5bb2

Pr?bujesz budowa? HEAD na Ac?

[patrys at meaw SPECS]$ rpm -qf /usr/src/linux/config-dist
kernel-headers-2.6.22.19-5.i686

[patrys at meaw SPECS]$ cat /etc/pld-release
2.99 PLD Linux (Th)

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sun Jun  1 20:20:54 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:20:54 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806011119w3f46ab42tbfe2f833cfd385ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011119w3f46ab42tbfe2f833cfd385ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Kamil Dziedzic <kamil.listy at klecza.pl>:
>> Anybody can fix this?
>> http://www.wklej.org/id/29908b2bde
>> http://www.wklej.org/id/fa28ed5bb2
> Pr?bujesz budowa? HEAD na Ac?
>
> [patrys at meaw SPECS]$ rpm -qf /usr/src/linux/config-dist
> kernel-headers-2.6.22.19-5.i686
>
> [patrys at meaw SPECS]$ cat /etc/pld-release
> 2.99 PLD Linux (Th)

Sorry, thought it was on devel-pl. Both HEADs are meant to be used on Th.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Jun  1 20:43:40 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:43:40 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011119w3f46ab42tbfe2f833cfd385ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org> 
wrote:
> > 2008/6/1 Kamil Dziedzic <kamil.listy at klecza.pl>:
> >> Anybody can fix this?
> >> http://www.wklej.org/id/29908b2bde
> >> http://www.wklej.org/id/fa28ed5bb2
> >
> > Pr?bujesz budowa? HEAD na Ac?
[en] Are you trying to build HEAD on Ac?

No. Those are logs from test builds on th-i686 builder. On x86_64 builder for 
example they builds fine.

> Sorry, thought it was on devel-pl. Both HEADs are meant to be used on Th.
I send it to both.

And btw there is something wrong with logs on 
http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~builderth/queue.html for i686 builder. They are 
not updated.

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From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sun Jun  1 21:29:03 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:29:03 +0200
Subject: CVS locks
In-Reply-To: <20080531094726.GA23641@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <20080531094726.GA23641@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <20080601192903.GA25053@mysza.eu.org>

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:47:26AM +0200, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> What is 207.115.86.105?
> 
> It seems to frequently download all SOURCES from different branches,
> causing locks on commits in SOURCES.

seems like SPECS/ is being locked as well...

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From ed at yen.ipipan.waw.pl  Sun Jun  1 22:00:30 2008
From: ed at yen.ipipan.waw.pl (=?iso-8859-2?q?=A3ukasz_Ma=B6ko?=)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:00:30 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <200806012200.30866@laptok.ed.pl>

Dnia niedziela, 1 czerwca 2008, Kamil Dziedzic napisa?:
[...]
> > Sorry, thought it was on devel-pl. Both HEADs are meant to be used on
> > Th.
>
> I send it to both.

I've just tried to build xorg-video-driver-nvidia -r HEAD on my box with Th 
with updates from ready/test and it builds fine on kernel 2.6.25.4 
(kernel.spec -r LINUX_2_6). maybe it's the kernel which is a problem?

Of course, it is not a solution to your question ;-)

-- 
?ukasz Ma?ko                                           GG:   2441498    _o)
Lukasz.Masko(at)ipipan.waw.pl                                           /\\
Registered Linux User #61028                                           _\_V
Ubuntu: staroafryka?skie s?owo oznaczaj?ce "Nie umiem zainstalowa? Debiana"


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sun Jun  1 22:12:30 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:12:30 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <200806012200.30866@laptok.ed.pl>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200806012200.30866@laptok.ed.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806011312n102c200m451e3e0ba91c393b@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:00 PM, ?ukasz Ma?ko <ed at yen.ipipan.waw.pl> wrote:
> I've just tried to build xorg-video-driver-nvidia -r HEAD on my box with Th
> with updates from ready/test and it builds fine on kernel 2.6.25.4
> (kernel.spec -r LINUX_2_6). maybe it's the kernel which is a problem?

A wild guess would be: th-i686 does not have kernel-headers installed.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From hawk at limanowa.net  Sun Jun  1 22:34:38 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:34:38 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806011312n102c200m451e3e0ba91c393b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>	<89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>	<200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>	<200806012200.30866@laptok.ed.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011312n102c200m451e3e0ba91c393b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484307DE.2010404@limanowa.net>

> A wild guess would be: th-i686 does not have kernel-headers installed.

Or kernel-source.

M.


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sun Jun  1 22:36:01 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:36:01 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <484307DE.2010404@limanowa.net>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200806012200.30866@laptok.ed.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011312n102c200m451e3e0ba91c393b@mail.gmail.com>
	<484307DE.2010404@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806011336t324e5c0dg66f98926dcd864a7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Marcin Krol <hawk at limanowa.net> wrote:
>> A wild guess would be: th-i686 does not have kernel-headers installed.
> Or kernel-source.

Why would you need kernel-source to build anything?

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From hawk at limanowa.net  Sun Jun  1 22:58:31 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:58:31 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806011336t324e5c0dg66f98926dcd864a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>	<89b6ba3a0806011120m70ab5dau74b4ef791d23127e@mail.gmail.com>	<200806012043.41366.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>	<200806012200.30866@laptok.ed.pl>	<89b6ba3a0806011312n102c200m451e3e0ba91c393b@mail.gmail.com>	<484307DE.2010404@limanowa.net>
	<89b6ba3a0806011336t324e5c0dg66f98926dcd864a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48430D77.9040103@limanowa.net>

> Why would you need kernel-source to build anything?

I don't know, but I remember that I had to install it to build some 
kernel related specs. Sadly, I don't remember which specs :(

M.


From glen at pld-linux.org  Mon Jun  2 09:21:31 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:21:31 +0300
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <48430D77.9040103@limanowa.net>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806011336t324e5c0dg66f98926dcd864a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<48430D77.9040103@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200806021021.31789.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Sunday 01 June 2008 23:58:31 Marcin Krol wrote:
> > Why would you need kernel-source to build anything?
>
> I don't know, but I remember that I had to install it to build some
> kernel related specs. Sadly, I don't remember which specs :(
/usr/src/linux/config-dist cames from kernel-headers package, and that was the 
error. kernel-source is required by iptables as it detects which addons to 
build based on files found in sourcedir and that is in BR.

most likely kernel-headers are provided by some older 
kernel-grsecurity-headers package. rpm -q --whatprovides kernel-headers to 
find it out.

-- 
glen


From beorn at alpha.pl  Mon Jun  2 14:03:51 2008
From: beorn at alpha.pl (Daniel =?utf-8?B?TXLDs3o=?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:03:51 +0200
Subject: SPECS: python-pywbxml.spec - TODO done - rel 1
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.5@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080602120351.GA5377@alpha.pl>

On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:47:57PM +0200, patrys wrote:
> SPECS:
>    python-pywbxml.spec (1.5 -> 1.6) 
	    ^^^^^^^ 
> ---- Diffs:
> 
> ================================================================
> Index: SPECS/python-pywbxml.spec
> diff -u SPECS/python-pywbxml.spec:1.5 SPECS/python-pywbxml.spec:1.6
> --- SPECS/python-pywbxml.spec:1.5	Sun Jun  1 20:07:35 2008
> +++ SPECS/python-pywbxml.spec	Sun Jun  1 21:47:52 2008
> @@ -1,10 +1,9 @@
>  # $Revision$, $Date$
> -# TODO: rename to either synce-pywbxml.spec or python-pywbxml.spec
>  Summary:	SynCE - Python bindings for wbxml2
>  Summary(pl.UTF-8):	SynCE - wi?zania Pythona do biblioteki wbxml2
			^^^^^
Ke?


Pozdrawiam
Beorn

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[                          r++  y+                           ]


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Mon Jun  2 14:27:23 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:27:23 +0200
Subject: SPECS: python-pywbxml.spec - TODO done - rel 1
In-Reply-To: <20080602120351.GA5377@alpha.pl>
References: <SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.5@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<20080602120351.GA5377@alpha.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806020527u62f8fffeid2688e4a30d193e3@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Daniel Mr?z <beorn at alpha.pl> wrote:
>> -# TODO: rename to either synce-pywbxml.spec or python-pywbxml.spec
>>  Summary:     SynCE - Python bindings for wbxml2
>>  Summary(pl.UTF-8):   SynCE - wi?zania Pythona do biblioteki wbxml2
>                        ^^^^^
> Ke?

What now? It's part of SynCE stack and is developed by the SynCE project.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From beorn at alpha.pl  Mon Jun  2 14:34:54 2008
From: beorn at alpha.pl (Daniel =?utf-8?B?TXLDs3o=?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:34:54 +0200
Subject: SPECS: python-pywbxml.spec - TODO done - rel 1
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806020527u62f8fffeid2688e4a30d193e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.5@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<20080602120351.GA5377@alpha.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806020527u62f8fffeid2688e4a30d193e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080602123454.GB5377@alpha.pl>

On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:27:23PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> -# TODO: rename to either synce-pywbxml.spec or python-pywbxml.spec
> >>  Summary:     SynCE - Python bindings for wbxml2
> >>  Summary(pl.UTF-8):   SynCE - wi?zania Pythona do biblioteki wbxml2
> >                        ^^^^^
> > Ke?
> What now? It's part of SynCE stack and is developed by the SynCE project.
Hmmmm.... Then it's alright.
Or maybe we shouldn't bind this module with SynCE if it can be
used by any other script/application/whatever. Else, somebody can
wrongly deduce, that python-pywbxml cannot be used without SynCE (I
presume this is not true). Don't know. What do you think about that?


Regards
Beorn

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[O- M- V!  PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP++ t- 5  X R !tv b+ DI D++ G++ e h*]
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Mon Jun  2 14:47:41 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:47:41 +0200
Subject: SPECS: python-pywbxml.spec - TODO done - rel 1
In-Reply-To: <20080602123454.GB5377@alpha.pl>
References: <SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.5@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_python_pywbxml.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<20080602120351.GA5377@alpha.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806020527u62f8fffeid2688e4a30d193e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080602123454.GB5377@alpha.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806020547y51ca2fe3ue5c0c338f92d1996@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Mr?z <beorn at alpha.pl> wrote:
> Hmmmm.... Then it's alright.
> Or maybe we shouldn't bind this module with SynCE if it can be
> used by any other script/application/whatever. Else, somebody can
> wrongly deduce, that python-pywbxml cannot be used without SynCE (I
> presume this is not true). Don't know. What do you think about that?

Feel free to replace it with any descriptive summary. Right now I'm
looking at possible solutions to a related problem - the bindings
require a modified version of the wbxml2 library (libwbxml2.spec vs
wbxml2.spec) and the two versions cannot be installed together.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun  3 17:32:19 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:32:19 +0300
Subject: SOURCES: rpm.macros - normalize rpath before processing. this
	fixes: /us...
In-Reply-To: <20080527203640.GA6583@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <SOURCES_rpm.macros.1.450@pld-linux.org>
	<SOURCES_rpm.macros.1.451@pld-linux.org>
	<20080527203640.GA6583@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <200806031832.19519.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Tuesday 27 May 2008 23:36:40 Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 03:04:12PM +0200, pluto wrote:
> > Author: pluto                        Date: Tue May 20 13:04:12 2008 GMT
> > Module: SOURCES                       Tag: HEAD
> > ---- Log message:
> > - normalize rpath before processing.
> >   this fixes:
> > /usr/bin/gij: RPATH=/usr/lib64/../lib64:/usr/lib64/gcj-4.2.4
> > /usr/bin/jv-convert: RPATH=/usr/lib64/../lib64
> >   into:
> > $ chrpath -l /usr/bin/gij
> > /usr/bin/gij: RPATH=/usr/lib64/gcj-4.3.0-9
> > $ chrpath -l /usr/bin/jv-convert
> > /usr/bin/jv-convert: no rpath or runpath tag found.
>
> That's desirable, but
>
> > @@ -449,6 +449,7 @@
> >  			chmod u+w "$file"; \
> >  			for dir in `chrpath -l "$file" | \
> >  					awk '/RPATH=/ { gsub(/.*RPATH=/,""); gsub(/:/," "); print $0 }'` ;
> > do \ +					dir=`%{__python} -c 'import sys, os; print
> > os.path.normpath(sys.argv[1]);' $dir`
>
> this way adds python dependency in rpm-build, which we don't want.
> Path should be normalized using more common tools.

commited r1.456

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Jun  3 20:08:07 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:08:07 +0300
Subject: ruby
Message-ID: <200806032108.07810.glen@delfi.ee>

what prevents our ruby (th, ac has vendordir broken) vendorlib being in /usr/share like perl/python?

$ rpm -E '%ruby_vendorlibdir %ruby_vendorarchdir'
/usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8 /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux

$ rpm -E '%perl_vendorlib %perl_vendorarch'
/usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/x86_64-pld-linux-thread-multi


-- 
glen


From aredridel at nbtsc.org  Tue Jun  3 20:10:41 2008
From: aredridel at nbtsc.org (Aria Stewart)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:10:41 -0600
Subject: ruby
In-Reply-To: <200806032108.07810.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200806032108.07810.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <244B7478-19A8-4E1C-899D-6E971DAC5A00@nbtsc.org>


On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> what prevents our ruby (th, ac has vendordir broken) vendorlib being  
> in /usr/share like perl/python?
>
> $ rpm -E '%ruby_vendorlibdir %ruby_vendorarchdir'
> /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8 /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/ 
> x86_64-linux
>
> $ rpm -E '%perl_vendorlib %perl_vendorarch'
> /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/ 
> x86_64-pld-linux-thread-multi
>
>

I think nothing now -- Ruby 1.8.7 integrates vendordir patch itself,  
too.

Aria Stewart
aredridel at nbtsc.org





From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Jun  3 21:45:22 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:45:22 +0300
Subject: ruby
In-Reply-To: <244B7478-19A8-4E1C-899D-6E971DAC5A00@nbtsc.org>
References: <200806032108.07810.glen@delfi.ee>
	<244B7478-19A8-4E1C-899D-6E971DAC5A00@nbtsc.org>
Message-ID: <200806032245.22595.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 03 June 2008 21:10, Aria Stewart wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > what prevents our ruby (th, ac has vendordir broken) vendorlib being
> > in /usr/share like perl/python?
> >
> > $ rpm -E '%ruby_vendorlibdir %ruby_vendorarchdir'
> > /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8 /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/
> > x86_64-linux
> >
> > $ rpm -E '%perl_vendorlib %perl_vendorarch'
> > /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/
> > x86_64-pld-linux-thread-multi
>
> I think nothing now -- Ruby 1.8.7 integrates vendordir patch itself,
> too.

it's not about vendorlib, but why vendor noarch part is under %{_libdir}, 
not %{_datadir}.

-- 
glen


From glen at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun  4 08:36:15 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:36:15 +0300
Subject: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Message-ID: <200806040936.15828.glen@pld-linux.org>

how to address such things? i mean it's the only address known of deviloper 
publically.

<kkrenski at skrzynka.pl> (expanded from <charles at pld-linux.org>): host
    mx.rizard.com[88.198.40.58] said: 550 5.1.1 <kkrenski at skrzynka.pl>:
    Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table (in 
reply
    to RCPT TO command)
unnamed
Delivery report


-- 
glen


From tomasz.wittner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  8 10:39:19 2008
From: tomasz.wittner at gmail.com (Tomasz Wittner)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:39:19 +0200
Subject: ruby
In-Reply-To: <200806032108.07810.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200806032108.07810.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200806081039.19780.tomasz.wittner@gmail.com>

On Tuesday 03 of June 2008, 20:08, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> what prevents our ruby (th, ac has vendordir broken) vendorlib being in
> /usr/share 
Making additional effort (patching sources, maintaining patches later, listen 
to people's complaint if something went wrong ;) with little gain. There are 
other issues with ruby setup, for example, setup for compilation of ruby 
packages has no ability (AFAIK) to take into account our C(XX)FLAGS, CC, CXX 
but takes them from /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i686-linux/rbconfig.rb (this file is 
generated during ruby building) - maybe it makes sense for C(XX)FLAGS, but 
for CC/CXX there is no way for passing custom value (think about ccache) 
other than patching setups of these packages. IMO such things should be 
addressed to ruby development lists rather than fixing whole world by 
yourself.

> like perl/python? 
Unlike mentioned already ruby and tcl, tk.
>
> $ rpm -E '%ruby_vendorlibdir %ruby_vendorarchdir'
> /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8
> /usr/lib64/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux
>
> $ rpm -E '%perl_vendorlib %perl_vendorarch'
> /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl
> /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/x86_64-pld-linux-thread-multi

PS: From my viewpoint using gem for setup ruby packages is much more 
convenient than using packages from distribution. I setup rails 2.0.2 and its 
dependencies for evaluation purposes with gem almost in no time. Downgrade 
rails to 1.8.6 with gem package manager was not a problem too.

-- 
Tomasz Wittner


From kkrenski at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 19:23:01 2008
From: kkrenski at gmail.com (Charles)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:23:01 +0200
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
In-Reply-To: <200806040936.15828.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200806040936.15828.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <faebb2670806091023r10532a4fhf637ae14078b864a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/4, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org>:
> how to address such things? i mean it's the only address known of deviloper
>  publically.
>
>  <kkrenski at skrzynka.pl> (expanded from <charles at pld-linux.org>): host
>     mx.rizard.com[88.198.40.58] said: 550 5.1.1 <kkrenski at skrzynka.pl>:
>     Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table (in
>  reply
>     to RCPT TO command)
>  unnamed
>  Delivery report

I don't know why. It's an working alias,
but okay - I changed to the different address.

-- 
Best regards,
Karol Krenski


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 10 00:59:04 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:59:04 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
circular deps. It seems to work with poldek from th-test but is not
reliable in ac or th-main. The end result is coreutils requires pam
which in turn requires coreutils and make and their installation is
broken. Both make and pam use the binaries provided by coreutils in
their respective %post sections.

Two proposed solutions:

1) move parts of %post in make and pam to %posttrans so they are
executed after the transaction is complete - ugly but could work

2) split coreutils into coreutils and coreutils base where *-base
contains all binaries except sudo and runuser as those depend on pam;
make and pam should then require coreutils-base instead of coreutils
and we get a clean dependency tree

If we don't have a huge disagreement here, I'll commit the second
option tomorrow.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 10 07:43:37 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:43:37 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080610054336.GA1480@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:59:04AM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
> fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
> circular deps. It seems to work with poldek from th-test but is not
> reliable in ac or th-main. The end result is coreutils requires pam
> which in turn requires coreutils and make and their installation is
> broken. Both make and pam use the binaries provided by coreutils in
> their respective %post sections.
> 
> Two proposed solutions:
> 
> 1) move parts of %post in make and pam to %posttrans so they are
> executed after the transaction is complete - ugly but could work

Or use lua in pam's %post.

> 2) split coreutils into coreutils and coreutils base where *-base
> contains all binaries except sudo and runuser as those depend on pam;
> make and pam should then require coreutils-base instead of coreutils
> and we get a clean dependency tree

-base, -basic, -core, -shared... the naming key is unclear (especially
in KDE4 packages, BTW)

I'd rather separate coreutils-su (containing su and runuser), they could
have alternatives (e.g. more configurable shadow-su).


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 10 09:36:15 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:36:15 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <20080610054336.GA1480@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080610054336.GA1480@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806100036k2264ef27ga61d29b5fe65151a@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Jakub Bogusz <qboosh at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:59:04AM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> Two proposed solutions:
>>
>> 1) move parts of %post in make and pam to %posttrans so they are
>> executed after the transaction is complete - ugly but could work
> Or use lua in pam's %post.

LUA has no way to chmod files without the lua-fs module. We can't load
additional modules in spec files.

>> 2) split coreutils into coreutils and coreutils base where *-base
>> contains all binaries except sudo and runuser as those depend on pam;
>> make and pam should then require coreutils-base instead of coreutils
>> and we get a clean dependency tree
> -base, -basic, -core, -shared... the naming key is unclear (especially
> in KDE4 packages, BTW)
>
> I'd rather separate coreutils-su (containing su and runuser), they could
> have alternatives (e.g. more configurable shadow-su).

Sounds like a plan.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 10 09:37:13 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:37:13 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806101037.13423.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Tuesday 10 June 2008 01:59:04 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
> fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
> circular deps.

i guess it's rather rpm being confused? the circular loops can be broken with 
rpm-whiteout.spec. however i'd support package spliting really.

-- 
glen


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 10 21:59:29 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:59:29 +0300
Subject: PLD-specs-TODO
In-Reply-To: <200805231803.52904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200805231803.52904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <200806102259.30157.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Friday 23 May 2008 19:03:45 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> [en] What do you think about moving PLD-doc/PLD-specs-TODO to wiki? Or
> maybe about some integration with wiki? Everybody could then add new
> propositions of specs, not only developers. You know, not all PLD users are
> developers;)

so no progress in any side?

-- 
glen


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 10 22:00:09 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:00:09 +0300
Subject: macro for /usr/share/php
In-Reply-To: <200805231201.11229.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200805231201.11229.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806102300.09908.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Friday 23 May 2008 12:01:11 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> anyone can suggest macro name for /usr/share/php?
>
> %php_data_dir
> %php_apps_dir
> %php....

still nobody?

-- 
glen


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Tue Jun 10 22:13:47 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:13:47 +0200
Subject: macro for /usr/share/php
In-Reply-To: <200806102300.09908.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200805231201.11229.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200806102300.09908.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080610201346.GA1305@mysza.eu.org>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:00:09PM +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Friday 23 May 2008 12:01:11 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > anyone can suggest macro name for /usr/share/php?
> >
> > %php_data_dir
> > %php_apps_dir
> > %php....
> 
> still nobody?

I'd use %php_data_dir, as it contains more than just (web)apps -
libraries, frameworks.

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Thu Jun 12 00:00:23 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:00:23 +0200
Subject: SPECS: ndoc-no-warnaserror.patch (NEW) - niech sobie ankry
	przenosi do SOURCES
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_ndoc_no_warnaserror.patch.1.1@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_ndoc_no_warnaserror.patch.NONE@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_ndoc_no_warnaserror.patch.1.1@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080611220023.GB1305@mysza.eu.org>

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:56:45PM +0200, wolf wrote:
> Author: wolf                         Date: Wed Jun 11 21:56:45 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - niech sobie ankry przenosi do SOURCES
> 
> ---- Files affected:
> SPECS:
>    ndoc-no-warnaserror.patch (NONE -> 1.1)  (NEW)

WTF?

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From wolf.pld at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 00:25:14 2008
From: wolf.pld at gmail.com (Bartosz Taudul)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:25:14 +0200
Subject: SPECS: ndoc-no-warnaserror.patch (NEW) - niech sobie ankry
	przenosi do SOURCES
In-Reply-To: <20080611220023.GB1305@mysza.eu.org>
References: <SPECS_ndoc_no_warnaserror.patch.NONE@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_ndoc_no_warnaserror.patch.1.1@pld-linux.org>
	<20080611220023.GB1305@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <20080611222514.GA1842@bajzel>

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:00:23AM +0200, Adam Go??biowski wrote:
> > Author: wolf                         Date: Wed Jun 11 21:56:45 2008 GMT
> > Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > ---- Log message:
> > - niech sobie ankry przenosi do SOURCES
> > 
> > ---- Files affected:
> > SPECS:
> >    ndoc-no-warnaserror.patch (NONE -> 1.1)  (NEW)
> WTF?
cvs: hash.c:353: findnode: Assertion `key != ((void *)0)' failed.

wolf
-- 
  Bartek   .  
  Taudul   :  
          .:....................................................................
w o l f @ p l d - l i n u x . o r g            .:. http://wolf.valkyrie.one.pl/


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Thu Jun 12 07:09:05 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:09:05 +0200
Subject: SPECS: VirtualBox.spec - added note about vboxdrv to %post
	like in xorg-dri...
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_VirtualBox.spec.1.93@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_VirtualBox.spec.1.92@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_VirtualBox.spec.1.93@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080612050905.GA21041@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:59:34AM +0200, hawk wrote:
> Author: hawk                         Date: Wed Jun 11 08:59:34 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - added note about vboxdrv to %post like in xorg-driver-nvidia*.spec

> +cat << 'EOF'
> +NOTE: You must also install kernel module for this software to work
> +  kernel-misc-vboxdrv-%{version}
> +  kernel-dektop-misc-vboxdrv-%{version}
> +  etc.
> +
> +Depending on which kernel brand you use.
> +
> +EOF

Eeeh... use %banner if you need to


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From glen at pld-linux.org  Thu Jun 12 15:58:33 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:58:33 +0300
Subject: SPECS: perl-DB_File.spec - rel 2 - require exact version of
	BerkeleyDB the ...
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_perl_DB_File.spec.1.55@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_perl_DB_File.spec.1.54@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_perl_DB_File.spec.1.55@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806121658.33515.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Thursday 12 June 2008 12:42:27 baggins wrote:
> +%define????????db_ver??%(rpm -q --what-provides --qf
> '%%{epoch}:%%{version}' db-devel) +#
..
>+Requires:      db = %{db_ver}

use %requires_eq_to macro?

-- 
glen


From baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl  Thu Jun 12 16:04:54 2008
From: baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl (Jan Rekorajski)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:04:54 +0200
Subject: SPECS: perl-DB_File.spec - rel 2 - require exact version of
	BerkeleyDB the ...
In-Reply-To: <200806121658.33515.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_perl_DB_File.spec.1.54@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_perl_DB_File.spec.1.55@pld-linux.org>
	<200806121658.33515.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080612140454.GQ4781@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> On Thursday 12 June 2008 12:42:27 baggins wrote:
> > +%define????????db_ver??%(rpm -q --what-provides --qf
> > '%%{epoch}:%%{version}' db-devel) +#
> ..
> >+Requires:      db = %{db_ver}
> 
> use %requires_eq_to macro?

Show me db and db-devel _packages_ and I will.

Janek
-- 
Jan Rekorajski            |  ALL SUSPECTS ARE GUILTY. PERIOD!
baggins<at>mimuw.edu.pl   |  OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE SUSPECTS, WOULD THEY?
BOFH, MANIAC              |                   -- TROOPS by Kevin Rubio


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sat Jun 14 12:46:47 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:46:47 +0200
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
Message-ID: <20080614104647.GA6583@mysza.eu.org>

Anyone knows what happened to them?

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From hawk at limanowa.net  Sat Jun 14 14:19:12 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:19:12 +0200
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
In-Reply-To: <20080614104647.GA6583@mysza.eu.org>
References: <20080614104647.GA6583@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <4853B740.4030901@limanowa.net>

> Anyone knows what happened to them?

ac-amd64 was on oberon.pld-linux.org which was taken down to move from 
Warsaw to Poznan. Ask arekm for details. Don't know anything about ac-alpha.

M.


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Jun 15 13:29:29 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:29:29 +0200
Subject: th-i686, problem with building VirtualBox.spec,
	xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec and propably more
In-Reply-To: <200806021021.31789.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200806012011.21970.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<48430D77.9040103@limanowa.net>
	<200806021021.31789.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806151329.30547.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Dnia poniedzia?ek 02 czerwiec 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> On Sunday 01 June 2008 23:58:31 Marcin Krol wrote:
> > > Why would you need kernel-source to build anything?
> >
> > I don't know, but I remember that I had to install it to build some
> > kernel related specs. Sadly, I don't remember which specs :(
>
> /usr/src/linux/config-dist cames from kernel-headers package, and that was
> the error. 
This error is still present. Anybody with rights to do something on this 
builder can fix it?

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From witek.firlej at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 19:36:41 2008
From: witek.firlej at gmail.com (Witek Firlej)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:36:41 +0200
Subject: PLD-specs-TODO
In-Reply-To: <200806102259.30157.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200805231803.52904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200806102259.30157.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806151936.41748.witek.firlej@gmail.com>

Dnia wtorek, 10 czerwca 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> On Friday 23 May 2008 19:03:45 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> > [en] What do you think about moving PLD-doc/PLD-specs-TODO to wiki?
> > Or maybe about some integration with wiki? Everybody could then add
> > new propositions of specs, not only developers. You know, not all
> > PLD users are developers;)
>
> so no progress in any side?

Initial:
http://pld-users.org/dokuwiki/specs-todo

Any idea, how to shorten urls automaticlly?

Changes in PLD-doc/PLD-specs-TODO are so rarely, that I can update wiki 
manually.
-- 
Witek Firlej
http://grizz.pl/ || http://galeria.firlej.org/


From glen at delfi.ee  Sun Jun 15 20:23:54 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:23:54 +0300
Subject: PLD-specs-TODO
In-Reply-To: <200806151936.41748.witek.firlej@gmail.com>
References: <200805231803.52904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200806102259.30157.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200806151936.41748.witek.firlej@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806152123.55182.glen@delfi.ee>

On Sunday 15 June 2008 20:36, Witek Firlej wrote:
> > so no progress in any side?
>
> Initial:
> http://pld-users.org/dokuwiki/specs-todo
>
> Any idea, how to shorten urls automaticlly?

perhaps don't write out the links? and do sth like this:

[[http://www.warsow.net/?page=home|warsow]]

-- 
glen


From witek.firlej at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 21:23:26 2008
From: witek.firlej at gmail.com (Witek Firlej)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:23:26 +0200
Subject: PLD-specs-TODO
In-Reply-To: <200806152123.55182.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200805231803.52904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200806151936.41748.witek.firlej@gmail.com>
	<200806152123.55182.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200806152123.26811.witek.firlej@gmail.com>

Dnia niedziela, 15 czerwca 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> On Sunday 15 June 2008 20:36, Witek Firlej wrote:
> > > so no progress in any side?
> >
> > Initial:
> > http://pld-users.org/dokuwiki/specs-todo
> >
> > Any idea, how to shorten urls automaticlly?
>
> perhaps don't write out the links? and do sth like this:
>
> [[http://www.warsow.net/?page=home|warsow]]

huh... so simple ;)

ok, I'll change it tomorow.
-- 
Witek Firlej
http://grizz.pl/ || http://galeria.firlej.org/


From glen at delfi.ee  Mon Jun 16 11:06:49 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:06:49 +0300
Subject: Fwd: builder queue problem
Message-ID: <200806161206.50193.glen@delfi.ee>

to whomever has power over this. please fix!

-- 
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From arekm at maven.pl  Mon Jun 16 11:16:49 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:16:49 +0200
Subject: Fwd: builder queue problem
In-Reply-To: <200806161206.50193.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200806161206.50193.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200806161116.50043.arekm@maven.pl>

On Monday 16 June 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> to whomever has power over this. please fix!

Some debian generated keys are blacklisted. You need to replace these with 
newly generated one.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Mon Jun 16 11:18:22 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:18:22 +0200
Subject: Fwd: builder queue problem
In-Reply-To: <200806161206.50193.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200806161206.50193.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080616091822.GA4522@mysza.eu.org>

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:06:49PM +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> to whomever has power over this. please fix!

Hmm, syslog at ep09 says the key is being blacklisted - can you regenerate it?

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From witek.firlej at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 16:15:10 2008
From: witek.firlej at gmail.com (Witek Firlej)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:15:10 +0200
Subject: PLD-specs-TODO
In-Reply-To: <200806152123.26811.witek.firlej@gmail.com>
References: <200805231803.52904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200806152123.55182.glen@delfi.ee>
	<200806152123.26811.witek.firlej@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806161615.10950.witek.firlej@gmail.com>

Dnia niedziela, 15 czerwca 2008, Witek Firlej napisa?:
> Dnia niedziela, 15 czerwca 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> > On Sunday 15 June 2008 20:36, Witek Firlej wrote:
> > > > so no progress in any side?
> > >
> > > Initial:
> > > http://pld-users.org/dokuwiki/specs-todo
> > >
> > > Any idea, how to shorten urls automaticlly?
> >
> > perhaps don't write out the links? and do sth like this:
> >
> > [[http://www.warsow.net/?page=home|warsow]]
>
> huh... so simple ;)
>
> ok, I'll change it tomorow.


Ok... now it's look better.

I'll give info on pld-users main page, and on forum.

If you want to have updated entry in CVS give me access to it :D or let 
somebody else take care about cvs ;)

-- 
Witek Firlej
http://grizz.pl/ || http://galeria.firlej.org/


From glen at pld-linux.org  Mon Jun 16 17:53:03 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:53:03 +0300
Subject: Fwd: builder queue problem
In-Reply-To: <20080616091822.GA4522@mysza.eu.org>
References: <200806161206.50193.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080616091822.GA4522@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <200806161853.03972.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Monday 16 June 2008 12:18:22 Adam Go??biowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:06:49PM +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > to whomever has power over this. please fix!
>
> Hmm, syslog at ep09 says the key is being blacklisted - can you regenerate it?

i did that, but the new key is also "compromised". can smb upgrade openssl on 
forge?

-- 
glen


From qrczak at knm.org.pl  Mon Jun 16 18:08:03 2008
From: qrczak at knm.org.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Marcin_=E2=80=98Qrczak=E2=80=99_Kowalczyk?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:08:03 +0200
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
Message-ID: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>

mozilla-firefox.spec -r DEVEL contains in %install:
%browser_plugins_add_browser %{name} -p %{_libdir}/%{name}/plugins

Definition of this macro from /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.build:
%browser_plugins_add_browser(p:b:a:) \
	browser=%1.%{!-a:%{_target_base_arch}}%{-a*} \
	install -d $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_browserpluginsconfdir}/{blacklist,browsers}.d \
	ln -s %{-p*} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_browserpluginsconfdir}/browsers.d/$browser \
	blacklist_file=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_browserpluginsconfdir}/blacklist.d/$browser.blacklist
\
	echo '# This file format is shell globs at base dir of plugindir' >
$blacklist_file \
	%{-b:cat >> $blacklist_file %{-b*}} \
%{nil}

'rpmbuild -bi --short-circuit mozilla-firefox.spec' tries to execute:
+ ln -s /tmp/mozilla-firefox-3.0-root-qrczak/etc/browser-plugins/browsers.d/mozilla-firefox.i386
ln: creating symbolic link `./mozilla-firefox.i386': File exists

One argument of ln is missing, the one corresponding to %{-p*}. Why?

rpm-5.1.0-0.1.athlon
rpm-build-macros-1.461-1.noarch

$ rpm --eval '%browser_plugins_add_browser mozilla-firefox -p
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins'

	browser=mozilla-firefox.i386
	install -d $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/browser-plugins/{blacklist,browsers}.d
	ln -s  $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/browser-plugins/browsers.d/$browser
	blacklist_file=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/browser-plugins/blacklist.d/$browser.blacklist
	echo '# This file format is shell globs at base dir of plugindir' >
$blacklist_file

-- 
Marcin Kowalczyk
qrczak at knm.org.pl
http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/


From witek.firlej at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 18:17:14 2008
From: witek.firlej at gmail.com (Witek Firlej)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:17:14 +0200
Subject: pld-users - registration doesn't work
Message-ID: <200806161817.14386.witek.firlej@gmail.com>

There is somethong wrong with pld-users.org
New user registration is off :/
-- 
Witek Firlej
http://grizz.pl/ || http://galeria.firlej.org/


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Jun 17 07:40:55 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:40:55 +0300
Subject: macro for /usr/share/php
In-Reply-To: <20080610201346.GA1305@mysza.eu.org>
References: <200805231201.11229.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200806102300.09908.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<20080610201346.GA1305@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <200806170840.55587.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 10 June 2008 23:13, Adam Go??biowski wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:00:09PM +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > On Friday 23 May 2008 12:01:11 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > anyone can suggest macro name for /usr/share/php?
> > >
> > > %php_data_dir
> > > %php_apps_dir
> > > %php....
> >
> > still nobody?
>
> I'd use %php_data_dir, as it contains more than just (web)apps -
> libraries, frameworks.

added in 1.461.

and what about this one?

# _phpdocdir / php_docdir / phpdoc_dir ?
%define     _phpdocdir      %{_docdir}/phpdoc

if we look at java, then there's %_javadocdir from rpm itself with a comment:
#   Import packaging conventions from jpackage.org (prefixed with _
#   to avoid name collisions).
#
%_javadir      %{_datadir}/java
%_javadocdir   %{_datadir}/javadoc

some don't like the _underscore "madness", do we have any policy of the 
macros? from existing ones i can see that with two underscores are path to 
programs (or initially were), the rest do not seem to have any specific 
pattern.

-- 
glen


From arekm at maven.pl  Tue Jun 17 09:03:22 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:03:22 +0200
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
In-Reply-To: <4853B740.4030901@limanowa.net>
References: <20080614104647.GA6583@mysza.eu.org>
	<4853B740.4030901@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200806170903.22244.arekm@maven.pl>

On Saturday 14 June 2008, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > Anyone knows what happened to them?
>
> ac-amd64 was on oberon.pld-linux.org which was taken down to move from
> Warsaw to Poznan. Ask arekm for details. Don't know anything about
> ac-alpha.

ac-amd64 should be back online tomorrow if nothing bad happens.

> M.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From gotar at polanet.pl  Tue Jun 17 10:53:43 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:53:43 +0200
Subject: macro for /usr/share/php
In-Reply-To: <200806170840.55587.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200805231201.11229.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200806102300.09908.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<20080610201346.GA1305@mysza.eu.org>
	<200806170840.55587.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080617085343.GA1376@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 08:40:55 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> %_javadocdir   %{_datadir}/javadoc
> 
> some don't like the _underscore "madness", do we have any policy of the 
> macros?

Yes - underscore precedes internal rpm macros (global defined), while
non-underscore are supposed to be used within specs.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 17 12:25:41 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:25:41 +0300
Subject: macro for /usr/share/php
In-Reply-To: <20080617085343.GA1376@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <200805231201.11229.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200806170840.55587.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080617085343.GA1376@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <200806171325.41265.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Tuesday 17 June 2008 11:53:43 Tomasz Pala wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 08:40:55 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > %_javadocdir   %{_datadir}/javadoc
> >
> > some don't like the _underscore "madness", do we have any policy of the
> > macros?
>
> Yes - underscore precedes internal rpm macros (global defined), while
> non-underscore are supposed to be used within specs.

... and are not "functions"?

i mean %configure is "function"

but what about? %xmms_prefix, %perl_sitelib ?

information to think about:
$ grep '^%[^_]' /usr/lib/rpm/macros.build|grep -v ^%define|grep -v '^%{'

-- 
glen


From qrczak at knm.org.pl  Wed Jun 18 13:52:21 2008
From: qrczak at knm.org.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Marcin_=E2=80=98Qrczak=E2=80=99_Kowalczyk?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:52:21 +0200
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3f4107910806180452l7d394cb1yada5072c07ec3603@mail.gmail.com>

Hello? Anybody got an idea?

What is the result of:
rpm --eval '%browser_plugins_add_browser mozilla-firefox -p
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins'
especially considering the line with 'ln -s'?

-- 
Marcin Kowalczyk
qrczak at knm.org.pl
http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 18 14:03:55 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:03:55 +0200
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <3f4107910806180452l7d394cb1yada5072c07ec3603@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<3f4107910806180452l7d394cb1yada5072c07ec3603@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806180503o2421f317l23cc9476159b39d4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
<qrczak at knm.org.pl> wrote:
> Hello? Anybody got an idea?
>
> What is the result of:
> rpm --eval '%browser_plugins_add_browser mozilla-firefox -p
> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins'
> especially considering the line with 'ln -s'?

[patrys at purrr SPECS]$ rpm --eval '%browser_plugins_add_browser
mozilla-firefox -p /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins'

	browser=mozilla-firefox.i386
	install -d $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/browser-plugins/{blacklist,browsers}.d
	ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/browser-plugins/browsers.d/$browser
	blacklist_file=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/browser-plugins/blacklist.d/$browser.blacklist
	echo '# This file format is shell globs at base dir of plugindir' >
$blacklist_file
	

[patrys at purrr SPECS]$ rpm -q rpm-build-macros
rpm-build-macros-1.454-1.noarch

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 18 14:57:09 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:57:09 +0300
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>

On Monday 16 June 2008 19:08, Marcin ?Qrczak? Kowalczyk wrote:
> One argument of ln is missing, the one corresponding to %{-p*}. Why?
>
> rpm-5.1.0-0.1.athlon

rpm5 doesn't parse macro params mixed with options like like rpm 4.4.9 / 4.5 
does.

look rpm-devel archives on rpm5.org. it's mentioned there with same macro 
problem afaik earlier this year.

-- 
glen


From qrczak at knm.org.pl  Wed Jun 18 16:12:58 2008
From: qrczak at knm.org.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Marcin_=E2=80=98Qrczak=E2=80=99_Kowalczyk?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:12:58 +0200
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/18 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee>:

> rpm5 doesn't parse macro params mixed with options like like rpm 4.4.9 / 4.5
> does.

Thank you for enlightenment. So... any plans how to resolve this?

-- 
Marcin Kowalczyk
qrczak at knm.org.pl
http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/

From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 18 16:24:26 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:24:26 +0300
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>
	<3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806181724.26441.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 18 June 2008 17:12, Marcin ?Qrczak? Kowalczyk wrote:
> 2008/6/18 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee>:
> > rpm5 doesn't parse macro params mixed with options like like rpm 4.4.9 /
> > 4.5 does.
>
> Thank you for enlightenment. So... any plans how to resolve this?

discuss it further in rpm-devel list, not here :) (so 'no' or 'not yet')

it's (to my opinion) impossible to resolve it compatible in both ways 
(rpm5/rpm4) due usage of extended 'EOF' at the end of macro which will be 
matched on next line where the macro really doesn't anymore exists.

-- 
glen


From n3npq at mac.com  Wed Jun 18 16:27:39 2008
From: n3npq at mac.com (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:27:39 -0400
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>
	<3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DBC4CA03-73C7-4367-AEFD-010CF395CA01@mac.com>


On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Marcin ?Qrczak? Kowalczyk wrote:

> 2008/6/18 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee>:
>
>> rpm5 doesn't parse macro params mixed with options like like rpm  
>> 4.4.9 / 4.5
>> does.
>
> Thank you for enlightenment. So... any plans how to resolve this?
>

The problem boils down to whether POSIX behavior is desirable or not.

getopt (as used in rpm-4.4.9 parameterized macros) already had a means
to specify whether POSIX behavior for parameterized macro option/arg
processing was desired. Here's the relevant section from "man 3 getopt"

        By default, getopt() permutes the contents of argv as it  
scans, so that
        eventually all the non-options are at the end.   Two  other   
modes  are
        also  implemented.   If  the first character of optstring is  
?+? or the
        environment variable POSIXLY_CORRECT is  set,  then  option   
processing
        stops  as  soon  as a non-option argument is encountered.  If  
the first
        character of optstring is ?-?, then  each  non-option  argv- 
element  is
        handled  as if it were the argument of an option with  
character code 1.
        (This is used by programs that were written to expect options  
and other
        argv-elements  in  any  order  and  that care about the  
ordering of the
        two.)  The special argument  "--"  forces  an  end  of   
option-scanning
        regardless of the scanning mode.

So
     %define foo(+ab:cd:) whatever
should (unchecked) turn on POSIX behavior (like in rpm-5.0) in  
rpm-4.4.9.

In rpm-5.0, OpenPKG is making extensive use of macros, and, unlike
linux glibc, the default behavior and expectation on *BSD is POSIX  
options-before-args
behavior. So popt rather than getopt is now used, and the popt  
equivalent
for POSIXLY_CORRECT is in the last argument to (from rpmio/macro.c):

         optCon = poptGetContext(argv[0], argc, argv, optTbl,  
POPT_CONTEXT_NO_EXEC|POPT_CONTEXT_POSIXMEHARDER);

The resolution will be to adopt the getopt leading "+" convention to  
set (or unset)
POPT_CONTEXT_POSIXMEHARDER.

Its likely 5-6 lines of C in rpmio/macro.c grabArgs() to achieve a  
resolution.

"Patches cheerfully accepted."

73 de Jeff
> -- 
> Marcin Kowalczyk
> qrczak at knm.org.pl
> http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en



From qrczak at knm.org.pl  Wed Jun 18 17:58:26 2008
From: qrczak at knm.org.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Marcin_=E2=80=98Qrczak=E2=80=99_Kowalczyk?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:58:26 +0200
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <DBC4CA03-73C7-4367-AEFD-010CF395CA01@mac.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>
	<3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<DBC4CA03-73C7-4367-AEFD-010CF395CA01@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3f4107910806180858n1818d8eftce42752761e570fc@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/18 Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>:

> "Patches cheerfully accepted."

Attached.

-- 
Marcin Kowalczyk
qrczak at knm.org.pl
http://qrnik.knm.org.pl/~qrczak/
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From n3npq at mac.com  Wed Jun 18 18:02:18 2008
From: n3npq at mac.com (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:02:18 -0400
Subject: %browser_plugins_add_browser does not work
In-Reply-To: <3f4107910806180858n1818d8eftce42752761e570fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3f4107910806160908v22c9b78fw9ae13b86129265e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806181557.09976.glen@delfi.ee>
	<3f4107910806180712p626bd286q9bd3d70b538650f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<DBC4CA03-73C7-4367-AEFD-010CF395CA01@mac.com>
	<3f4107910806180858n1818d8eftce42752761e570fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D18AC55-7384-4D7C-A055-C30A18D317B6@mac.com>


On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Marcin ?Qrczak? Kowalczyk wrote:

> 2008/6/18 Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>:
>
>> "Patches cheerfully accepted."
>
> Attached.
>

Thank you. PLD is my favorite distro, you guys send patches too!

I'll push the change through all @rpm5.org releases today.

73 de Jeff

From arekm at maven.pl  Wed Jun 18 20:33:44 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:33:44 +0200
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
In-Reply-To: <200806170903.22244.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <20080614104647.GA6583@mysza.eu.org>
	<4853B740.4030901@limanowa.net> <200806170903.22244.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <200806182033.45083.arekm@maven.pl>

On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> On Saturday 14 June 2008, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > > Anyone knows what happened to them?
> >
> > ac-amd64 was on oberon.pld-linux.org which was taken down to move from
> > Warsaw to Poznan. Ask arekm for details. Don't know anything about
> > ac-alpha.
>
> ac-amd64 should be back online tomorrow if nothing bad happens.

ac-amd64 builder is back online.

> > M.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 18 20:49:20 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:49:20 +0300
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
In-Reply-To: <4853B740.4030901@limanowa.net>
References: <20080614104647.GA6583@mysza.eu.org>
	<4853B740.4030901@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200806182149.20713.glen@delfi.ee>

On Saturday 14 June 2008 15:19, Marcin Krol wrote:
> Don't know anything about ac-alpha.

it's still down:

sh: connect to host morpheus.cs.net.pl port 23: No route to host
=== Window terminated (Wed Jun 18 21:48:34 2008) ===

-- 
glen


From ankry at green.mif.pg.gda.pl  Wed Jun 18 21:26:56 2008
From: ankry at green.mif.pg.gda.pl (Andrzej Krzysztofowicz)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:26:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
In-Reply-To: <200806182149.20713.glen@delfi.ee> from "Elan
	=?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=" at Jun 18, 2008 09:49:20 PM
Message-ID: <200806181926.m5IJQuar031097@green.mif.pg.gda.pl>

Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?= wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 14 June 2008 15:19, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > Don't know anything about ac-alpha.
> 
> it's still down:
> 
> sh: connect to host morpheus.cs.net.pl port 23: No route to host

It seems we no longer has access to this machine.
Anybody has a spare alpha machine to donate?

-- 
=======================================================================
  Andrzej M. Krzysztofowicz                  ankry at mif.pg.gda.pl
  phone (48)(58) 347 19 36
Faculty of Applied Phys. & Math.,   Gdansk University of Technology


From freetz at gmx.net  Thu Jun 19 09:11:38 2008
From: freetz at gmx.net (Fryderyk Dziarmagowski)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:11:38 +0200
Subject: SPECS: xulrunner.spec - as long system nss is not used the nss
	library deps...
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_xulrunner.spec.1.57@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_xulrunner.spec.1.56@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_xulrunner.spec.1.57@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080619091138.8966220c.freetz@gmx.net>

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:37:31 +0200
glen <glen at pld-linux.org> wrote:

> Author: glen                         Date: Wed Jun 18 20:37:31 2008
> GMT Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - as long system nss is not used the nss library deps should not be
> provided nor required outside (some applies to firefox3 package)

that looks like: "I'm too lazy to build nss 3.12.x, I can screw the
spec!".

-- 
Fryderyk Dziarmagowski


From glen at delfi.ee  Thu Jun 19 08:02:02 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:02:02 +0300
Subject: SPECS: xulrunner.spec - as long system nss is not used the nss
	library deps...
In-Reply-To: <20080619091138.8966220c.freetz@gmx.net>
References: <SPECS_xulrunner.spec.1.56@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_xulrunner.spec.1.57@pld-linux.org>
	<20080619091138.8966220c.freetz@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200806190902.02848.glen@delfi.ee>

On Thursday 19 June 2008 10:11, Fryderyk Dziarmagowski wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:37:31 +0200
>
> glen <glen at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> > Author: glen                         Date: Wed Jun 18 20:37:31 2008
> > GMT Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > ---- Log message:
> > - as long system nss is not used the nss library deps should not be
> > provided nor required outside (some applies to firefox3 package)
>
> that looks like: "I'm too lazy to build nss 3.12.x, I can screw the
> spec!".

i say that both firefox and xulrunner were merged from DEVEL to HEAD 
prematurely.

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Mon Jun 23 16:55:23 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:55:23 +0200
Subject: glibc locale handling broken?
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806230755uc407d36u8af4f96f481954ad@mail.gmail.com>

Consider the attached file. The expected behavior is for it to return
four time the exact same set of messages. GNU strptime is guaranteed
to parse POSIX C-formatted strings even if the current locale is not
C. However that's not what I get:

[patrys at purrr Desktop]$ gcc test.c -o test
[patrys at purrr Desktop]$ ./test
DEBUG: Parsed as 00-00-00
DEBUG: Parsed as 23-05-108
DEBUG: Parsed as 23-05-108
DEBUG: Parsed as 23-05-108

The same was tested on other distros and gives four identical results
while on PLD the first one results in a parsing error.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 24 22:16:29 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:16:29 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806101037.13423.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806101037.13423.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806241316u6ecd9732j889960f4965208bf@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 June 2008 01:59:04 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
>> fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
>> circular deps.
>
> i guess it's rather rpm being confused? the circular loops can be broken with
> rpm-whiteout.spec. however i'd support package spliting really.

coreutils rel 3 now has a separate subpackage for su and runuser. Also
sent to th-test for testing.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From arekm at maven.pl  Tue Jun 24 22:26:19 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:26:19 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806241316u6ecd9732j889960f4965208bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806101037.13423.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<89b6ba3a0806241316u6ecd9732j889960f4965208bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>

On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 June 2008 01:59:04 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
> >> fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
> >> circular deps.
> >
> > i guess it's rather rpm being confused? the circular loops can be broken
> > with rpm-whiteout.spec. however i'd support package spliting really.
>
> coreutils rel 3 now has a separate subpackage for su and runuser. Also
> sent to th-test for testing.

The problem with split is that people using su to switch to root will have a 
problem after doing simple upgrade (most people won't notice -su subpackage).

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 24 22:31:54 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:31:54 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806101037.13423.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<89b6ba3a0806241316u6ecd9732j889960f4965208bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806241331m1f4fb790h980a34cbd43f6314@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm at maven.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 10 June 2008 01:59:04 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> >> The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
>> >> fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
>> >> circular deps.
>> >
>> > i guess it's rather rpm being confused? the circular loops can be broken
>> > with rpm-whiteout.spec. however i'd support package spliting really.
>>
>> coreutils rel 3 now has a separate subpackage for su and runuser. Also
>> sent to th-test for testing.
>
> The problem with split is that people using su to switch to root will have a
> problem after doing simple upgrade (most people won't notice -su subpackage).

I don't see how that's a problem - it's a matter of installing one
package (and not a required one - on my system no package requires
/bin/su). I'm used to typing 'sudo su -' but then I just installed the
subpackage and it works as expected. It's a one-time operation.

The only thing that might need fixing is rc.d files using 'daemon
--user foo' as in that case rc-scripts calls out to su. Still, no such
package on my system.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From hawk at limanowa.net  Tue Jun 24 22:37:52 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:37:52 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>	<200806101037.13423.glen@pld-linux.org>	<89b6ba3a0806241316u6ecd9732j889960f4965208bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <48615B20.4040006@limanowa.net>

> The problem with split is that people using su to switch to root will have a 
> problem after doing simple upgrade (most people won't notice -su subpackage).

Suggests for -su subpackage? Everyone will be prompted on upgrade to 
install it or not.

M.


From arekm at maven.pl  Tue Jun 24 22:38:45 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:38:45 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806241331m1f4fb790h980a34cbd43f6314@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241331m1f4fb790h980a34cbd43f6314@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>

On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm at maven.pl> 
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org> 
wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday 10 June 2008 01:59:04 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> >> The problem we are currently facing is that installing packages to a
> >> >> fresh system results in poldek being confused about coreutils + pam
> >> >> circular deps.
> >> >
> >> > i guess it's rather rpm being confused? the circular loops can be
> >> > broken with rpm-whiteout.spec. however i'd support package spliting
> >> > really.
> >>
> >> coreutils rel 3 now has a separate subpackage for su and runuser. Also
> >> sent to th-test for testing.
> >
> > The problem with split is that people using su to switch to root will
> > have a problem after doing simple upgrade (most people won't notice -su
> > subpackage).
>
> I don't see how that's a problem - it's a matter of installing one
> package (and not a required one - on my system no package requires
> /bin/su). I'm used to typing 'sudo su -' but then I just installed the
> subpackage and it works as expected. It's a one-time operation.

su -
poldek, do coreutils upgrade
quit
exit

and next time su - fails as this commands no longer exists.

Now you have to drive 300km to get into server console, log into root and 
install coreutils-su since at this time you will know about the split 8-)

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Jun 24 22:46:08 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:46:08 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241331m1f4fb790h980a34cbd43f6314@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm at maven.pl> wrote:
> su -
> poldek, do coreutils upgrade
> quit
> exit
>
> and next time su - fails as this commands no longer exists.
>
> Now you have to drive 300km to get into server console, log into root and
> install coreutils-su since at this time you will know about the split 8-)

There is always sudo ;)

I'd vote for adding Suggests but somewhere else than coreutils (as it
re-adds the circular dependency) or adding Requires to rc-scripts (as
"daemon --user foo" uses su).

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From arekm at maven.pl  Wed Jun 25 07:13:47 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:13:47 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806250713.47635.arekm@maven.pl>

On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm at maven.pl> 
wrote:
> > su -
> > poldek, do coreutils upgrade
> > quit
> > exit
> >
> > and next time su - fails as this commands no longer exists.
> >
> > Now you have to drive 300km to get into server console, log into root and
> > install coreutils-su since at this time you will know about the split 8-)
>
> There is always sudo ;)
>
> I'd vote for adding Suggests but somewhere else than coreutils (as it
> re-adds the circular dependency) or adding Requires to rc-scripts (as
> "daemon --user foo" uses su).

All th builders are now broken due to split. su was used there and coreutils 
upgraded automaticly.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 08:57:41 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:57:41 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806250713.47635.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806250713.47635.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806242357w2da4b777tbcf427eb1cb74c47@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm at maven.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> I'd vote for adding Suggests but somewhere else than coreutils (as it
>> re-adds the circular dependency) or adding Requires to rc-scripts (as
>> "daemon --user foo" uses su).
> All th builders are now broken due to split. su was used there and coreutils
> upgraded automaticly.

It's a matter of adding it in the appropriate place, not reverting the change :)

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From blues at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 10:50:02 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:50:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806242357w2da4b777tbcf427eb1cb74c47@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806250713.47635.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806242357w2da4b777tbcf427eb1cb74c47@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806251044140.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> I'd vote for adding Suggests but somewhere else than coreutils (as it 
> >> re-adds the circular dependency) or adding Requires to rc-scripts (as 
> >> "daemon --user foo" uses su).
> > All th builders are now broken due to split. su was used there and 
> > coreutils upgraded automaticly.
> It's a matter of adding it in the appropriate place, not reverting the 
> change :)

That change is not wrong but causes A LOT of problems....

It can't stay in current state because it will spoil a lot of systems with 
very little gain.


IMO there should be added "R: coreutils-su" in main coreutils and leave it 
for, let's say, 6 months. All current systems will be updated in this 
time, without any problems. After the 6 months that requires could be 
changed into Suggests.

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 25 10:58:39 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:58:39 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <48615B20.4040006@limanowa.net>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl> <48615B20.4040006@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 24 June 2008 23:37, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > The problem with split is that people using su to switch to root will
> > have a problem after doing simple upgrade (most people won't notice -su
> > subpackage).
>
> Suggests for -su subpackage? Everyone will be prompted on upgrade to
> install it or not.

i will still not solve initial problem (the dependency loop)

however playing with R: -su in rc-scripts, C: rc-scripts < foo in coreutils 
should make most installs safe (i don't know any system without 
rc-scripts) :)

-- 
glen


From gotar at polanet.pl  Wed Jun 25 11:06:02 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:06:02 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806251044140.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806250713.47635.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806242357w2da4b777tbcf427eb1cb74c47@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0806251044140.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
Message-ID: <20080625090602.GA7841@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:50:02 +0200, Pawel Golaszewski wrote:

> IMO there should be added "R: coreutils-su" in main coreutils and leave it 
> for, let's say, 6 months. All current systems will be updated in this 

Don't forget about purpose of this separation - it has been done to
break R loop, so this way makes no sense.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From gotar at polanet.pl  Wed Jun 25 11:07:30 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:07:30 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl> <48615B20.4040006@limanowa.net>
	<200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:58:39 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> however playing with R: -su in rc-scripts, C: rc-scripts < foo in coreutils 
> should make most installs safe (i don't know any system without 
> rc-scripts) :)

~:  rpm -q rc-scripts
package rc-scripts is not installed

;]

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 11:11:39 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:11:39 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl> <48615B20.4040006@limanowa.net>
	<200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806250211h68c877c9v3b7bd0e56e9f1a84@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/25 Tomasz Pala <gotar at polanet.pl>:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:58:39 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>
>> however playing with R: -su in rc-scripts, C: rc-scripts < foo in coreutils
>> should make most installs safe (i don't know any system without
>> rc-scripts) :)
> ~:  rpm -q rc-scripts
> package rc-scripts is not installed

The change was already reverted in cvs as I fixed pam.spec not to
cause the loop in the first place. Current problem: can't rebuild
coreutils as pam no longer compiles:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/pld-linux/+bug/242867

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From glen at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 11:16:01 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:16:01 +0300
Subject: SPECS: gpm.spec - todo about soname change (comments?)
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_gpm.spec.1.150@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_gpm.spec.1.149@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_gpm.spec.1.150@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806251216.01330.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:13, adamg wrote:
> +# - soname changed (in 1.20.4), but ABI didn't - perhaps think about
> +# ? reverting the soname change (or provide libgpm.so.1 symlink)

+1 for symlink and Provides:.

-- 
glen


From glen at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 11:16:48 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:16:48 +0300
Subject: SPECS: openldap.spec - better way to fix libtool 2.2 issues
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_openldap.spec.1.290@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_openldap.spec.1.289@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_openldap.spec.1.290@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806251216.49052.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Thursday 19 June 2008 14:57, hawk wrote:
> -%{__libtoolize}
> -cp -f /usr/share/automake/config.sub ./build/
> +%{__libtoolize} --install

do it globallly in rpm-build-macros?
will it break libtool < 2.2?

-- 
glen


From gotar at polanet.pl  Wed Jun 25 11:17:19 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:17:19 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242226.19916.arekm@maven.pl> <48615B20.4040006@limanowa.net>
	<200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080625091718.GA13317@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:58:39 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> however playing with R: -su in rc-scripts, C: rc-scripts < foo in coreutils 
> should make most installs safe (i don't know any system without 

There's one more nasty (really) hack possible in %pre (or %post maybe?):

[ -x /bin/su ] && cp -b /bin/su{,.rpmsave}

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 25 12:06:18 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:06:18 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <200806251306.18575.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 12:07, Tomasz Pala wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:58:39 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > however playing with R: -su in rc-scripts, C: rc-scripts < foo in
> > coreutils should make most installs safe (i don't know any system without
> > rc-scripts) :)
>
> ~:  rpm -q rc-scripts
> package rc-scripts is not installed

yeah probably hacked system (not pure pld install), as even openssh-server 
requires rc-scripts.

does your system (other than for admin) needs su?

> ;]



-- 
glen


From baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl  Wed Jun 25 14:18:13 2008
From: baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl (Jan Rekorajski)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:18:13 +0200
Subject: SPECS: pam.spec - use LUA in %post
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_pam.spec.1.287@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_pam.spec.1.286@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_pam.spec.1.287@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080625121813.GD2192@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, patrys wrote:

> Author: patrys                       Date: Wed Jun 25 11:58:19 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - use LUA in %post
> 
> ---- Files affected:
> SPECS:
>    pam.spec (1.286 -> 1.287) 
> 
> ---- Diffs:
> 
> ================================================================
> Index: SPECS/pam.spec
> diff -u SPECS/pam.spec:1.286 SPECS/pam.spec:1.287
> --- SPECS/pam.spec:1.286	Wed Jun 25 13:35:23 2008
> +++ SPECS/pam.spec	Wed Jun 25 13:58:14 2008
> @@ -372,11 +372,15 @@
>  	rm -rf /var/lock/console
>  fi
>  
> -%post
> -if [ ! -a /var/log/tallylog ] ; then
> -	# don't use coreutils here
> -	(umask 177; :> /var/log/tallylog)
> -fi
> +%post -p <lua>
> +fh, error = io.open("/var/log/tallylog")
^^^^^^
> +if file ~= nil then
      ^^^^
> +	io.close(fh)
		^^^^

Now that's interesting. Will it work?

Janek
-- 
Jan Rekorajski            |  ALL SUSPECTS ARE GUILTY. PERIOD!
baggins<at>mimuw.edu.pl   |  OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE SUSPECTS, WOULD THEY?
BOFH, MANIAC              |                   -- TROOPS by Kevin Rubio


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 14:22:52 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:22:52 +0200
Subject: SPECS: pam.spec - use LUA in %post
In-Reply-To: <20080625121813.GD2192@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
References: <SPECS_pam.spec.1.286@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_pam.spec.1.287@pld-linux.org>
	<20080625121813.GD2192@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806250522o64fcb476s5a45e5c0a9866e88@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Jan Rekorajski
<baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, patrys wrote:
>> +     io.close(fh)
>                ^^^^
> Now that's interesting. Will it work?

Fixed in rel 3.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From gotar at polanet.pl  Wed Jun 25 15:57:58 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:57:58 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806251306.18575.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200806251306.18575.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080625135758.GA4450@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 13:06:18 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> yeah probably hacked system (not pure pld install),

Yep.

> as even openssh-server requires rc-scripts.

As a matter of fact it's my own workstation:

~:  rpm -Va --nofiles | grep rc-scripts

> does your system (other than for admin) needs su?

No - I've got an priviledged account with RSA key on every machine.
I've just gave you some example of system without rc-scripts ;]

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 16:00:19 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:00:19 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <20080625135758.GA4450@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806251158.41514.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080625090730.GA12406@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200806251306.18575.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080625135758.GA4450@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806250700k5469c493wb0e3ca06a1cab00e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/25 Tomasz Pala <gotar at polanet.pl>:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 13:06:18 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>> does your system (other than for admin) needs su?
> No - I've got an priviledged account with RSA key on every machine.
> I've just gave you some example of system without rc-scripts ;]

This discussion leads to nothing as I've rewritten pam to use LUA in
post and re-merged coreutils.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From blues at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 16:09:48 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:09:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <20080625090602.GA7841@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806242238.46053.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806241346r1fc6a4a4n8d4f409a7eba34a@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806250713.47635.arekm@maven.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806242357w2da4b777tbcf427eb1cb74c47@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0806251044140.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
	<20080625090602.GA7841@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806251608060.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Tomasz Pala wrote:
> > IMO there should be added "R: coreutils-su" in main coreutils and 
> > leave it for, let's say, 6 months. All current systems will be updated 
> > in this
> Don't forget about purpose of this separation - it has been done to 
> break R loop, so this way makes no sense.

In short period of time - sure.
But it allows to make smooth change. Current configs won't be broken, with 
new instalation you have to keep in mind that "su" needs to be installed.

Anyway - now whole discussion is pointless.

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From kornet at camk.edu.pl  Wed Jun 25 17:01:02 2008
From: kornet at camk.edu.pl (Kacper Kornet)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:01:02 +0200
Subject: SPECS: exiv2.spec - pass --install to libtoolize (fixes build)
	- release 2
Message-ID: <20080625150102.GN12348@virgo.camk.edu.pl>

> Author: adamg                        Date: Wed Jun 25 08:46:32 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - pass --install to libtoolize (fixes build) 
> - release 2 

In this case shouldn't the BuildRequires: libtool >= 2:1.5 be changed to
require version >= 1.9b?

-- 
  Kacper 


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 25 17:19:17 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:19:17 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806250700k5469c493wb0e3ca06a1cab00e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080625135758.GA4450@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806250700k5469c493wb0e3ca06a1cab00e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806251819.18029.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 17:00, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> 2008/6/25 Tomasz Pala <gotar at polanet.pl>:
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 13:06:18 +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> >> does your system (other than for admin) needs su?
> >
> > No - I've got an priviledged account with RSA key on every machine.
> > I've just gave you some example of system without rc-scripts ;]
>
> This discussion leads to nothing as I've rewritten pam to use LUA in
> post and re-merged coreutils.

however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver system without 
any suid-root programs present.

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 17:28:15 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:28:15 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806251819.18029.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080625135758.GA4450@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0806250700k5469c493wb0e3ca06a1cab00e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806251819.18029.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806250828n3d93da4ey76a3395ded9a3929@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver system without
> any suid-root programs present.

Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 17:26:39 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:26:39 +0200
Subject: SPECS: openldap.spec - better way to fix libtool 2.2 issues
In-Reply-To: <200806251216.49052.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_openldap.spec.1.289@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_openldap.spec.1.290@pld-linux.org>
	<200806251216.49052.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080625152638.GA30673@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:16:48PM +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Thursday 19 June 2008 14:57, hawk wrote:
> > -%{__libtoolize}
> > -cp -f /usr/share/automake/config.sub ./build/
> > +%{__libtoolize} --install
> 
> do it globallly in rpm-build-macros?

I don't think so, it's usually done by automake --add-missing and
required only in projects which don't use automake.

> will it break libtool < 2.2?

< 1.9b to be exact (BR should be updated to 2:2.0).


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Wed Jun 25 17:53:51 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:53:51 +0200
Subject: SPECS: exiv2.spec - pass --install to libtoolize (fixes build)
	- release 2
In-Reply-To: <20080625150102.GN12348@virgo.camk.edu.pl>
References: <20080625150102.GN12348@virgo.camk.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <20080625155351.GC12053@mysza.eu.org>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 05:01:02PM +0200, Kacper Kornet wrote:
> > Author: adamg                        Date: Wed Jun 25 08:46:32 2008 GMT
> > Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > ---- Log message:
> > - pass --install to libtoolize (fixes build) 
> > - release 2 
> 
> In this case shouldn't the BuildRequires: libtool >= 2:1.5 be changed to
> require version >= 1.9b?

Indeed.

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 25 20:39:10 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:39:10 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806250828n3d93da4ey76a3395ded9a3929@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806251819.18029.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0806250828n3d93da4ey76a3395ded9a3929@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806252139.10318.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 18:28, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver system
> > without any suid-root programs present.
>
> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)

how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this question already was 
here, but now goal is little different)

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Jun 25 21:31:29 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:31:29 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806252139.10318.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806251819.18029.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0806250828n3d93da4ey76a3395ded9a3929@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252139.10318.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806251231w4070f36ch78fa2599ae250bf6@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 June 2008 18:28, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
>> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver system
>> > without any suid-root programs present.
>>
>> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)
> how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this question already was
> here, but now goal is little different)

How about Suggests in base coreutils?

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 25 21:44:21 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:44:21 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0806251231w4070f36ch78fa2599ae250bf6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252139.10318.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0806251231w4070f36ch78fa2599ae250bf6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806252244.21182.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 22:31, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 June 2008 18:28, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> >> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver system
> >> > without any suid-root programs present.
> >>
> >> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)
> >
> > how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this question
> > already was here, but now goal is little different)
>
> How about Suggests in base coreutils?

even better, don't have to change it in the future then.

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Jun 25 22:13:40 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:13:40 +0300
Subject: ac-amd64 / ac-alpha down
In-Reply-To: <200806181926.m5IJQuar031097@green.mif.pg.gda.pl>
References: <200806181926.m5IJQuar031097@green.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <200806252313.40441.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 18 June 2008 22:26, Andrzej Krzysztofowicz wrote:
> Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?= wrote:
> > On Saturday 14 June 2008 15:19, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > > Don't know anything about ac-alpha.
> >
> > it's still down:
> >
> > sh: connect to host morpheus.cs.net.pl port 23: No route to host
>
> It seems we no longer has access to this machine.
> Anybody has a spare alpha machine to donate?

if there's no hardware perhaps setup builder up with qemu-alpha? 

-- 
glen


From blues at pld-linux.org  Thu Jun 26 11:39:26 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:39:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806252244.21182.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252139.10318.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0806251231w4070f36ch78fa2599ae250bf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252244.21182.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261138460.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > >> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver 
> > >> > system without any suid-root programs present.
> > >> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)
> > > how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this question 
> > > already was here, but now goal is little different)
> > How about Suggests in base coreutils?
> even better, don't have to change it in the future then.

Suggests won't help if you are making automatic upgrade...

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From Lukasz.Chrustek at ghnet.pl  Thu Jun 26 11:58:15 2008
From: Lukasz.Chrustek at ghnet.pl (=?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Chrustek?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:58:15 +0200
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261138460.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252139.10318.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0806251231w4070f36ch78fa2599ae250bf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252244.21182.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261138460.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
Message-ID: <126953345.20080626115815@ghnet.pl>

Witam

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>> > >> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver 
>> > >> > system without any suid-root programs present.
>> > >> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)
>> > > how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this question 
>> > > already was here, but now goal is little different)
>> > How about Suggests in base coreutils?
>> even better, don't have to change it in the future then.

> Suggests won't help if you are making automatic upgrade...


automatic upgrade ? in PLD :D ?. And I thougt such things only in era,
or RA :).

-- 
Regards,
brushek



From glen at delfi.ee  Thu Jun 26 12:32:38 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-15?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:32:38 +0300
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261138460.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252244.21182.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261138460.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
Message-ID: <200806261332.39346.glen@delfi.ee>

On Thursday 26 June 2008 12:39, Pawel Golaszewski wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > >> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had vserver
> > > >> > system without any suid-root programs present.
> > > >>
> > > >> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)
> > > >
> > > > how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this question
> > > > already was here, but now goal is little different)
> > >
> > > How about Suggests in base coreutils?
> >
> > even better, don't have to change it in the future then.
>
> Suggests won't help if you are making automatic upgrade...

doesn't poldek ask you about the suggest items do you want to install them?
poldek-0.21 keeps you asking them forever, but poldek-0.30 was afaik little 
smarter.

or you're suggesting that poldek --noask will default all suggest answers to 
No?

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Thu Jun 26 12:48:06 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:48:06 +0300
Subject: SPECS: openldap.spec - better way to fix libtool 2.2 issues
In-Reply-To: <20080625152638.GA30673@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <SPECS_openldap.spec.1.289@pld-linux.org>
	<200806251216.49052.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<20080625152638.GA30673@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <200806261348.06970.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 18:26, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:16:48PM +0300, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 June 2008 14:57, hawk wrote:
> > > -%{__libtoolize}
> > > -cp -f /usr/share/automake/config.sub ./build/
> > > +%{__libtoolize} --install
> >
> > do it globallly in rpm-build-macros?
>
> I don't think so, it's usually done by automake --add-missing and
> required only in projects which don't use automake.

would it hurt if added to libtool >= 2.0? e.g. append to libtoolize macro sth like:

libtoolize --version | awk '/^libtoolize/{split($NF, a, "."); v=a[1]"."a[2];if (v > 2.0) {print "--install"}}'



$ rpm --define "__libtoolize libtoolize --copy --force %(libtoolize --version | awk '/^libtoolize/{split(\$NF, a, \".\"); v=a[1]\".\"a[2];if (v > 2.0) print 
\"--install\"}')" -E %__libtoolize
libtoolize --copy --force

$ libtoolize --version
libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26

$ rpm --define "__libtoolize libtoolize --copy --force %(libtoolize --version | awk '/^libtoolize/{split(\$NF, a, \".\"); v=a[1]\".\"a[2];if (v > 2.0) print 
\"--install\"}')" -E %__libtoolize
libtoolize --copy --force --install

$ libtoolize --version
libtoolize (GNU libtool) 2.2.4



-- 
glen


From blues at pld-linux.org  Thu Jun 26 12:58:02 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:58:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Split coreutils?
In-Reply-To: <200806261332.39346.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <89b6ba3a0806091559o7e3915e3ud9c67fe0cf1273fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806252244.21182.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261138460.12211@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
	<200806261332.39346.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0806261255360.13984@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > > >> > however i'd had liked the change, that way i could had 
> > > > >> > vserver system without any suid-root programs present.
> > > > >> Feel free to split again and handle all the unhappy devs :)
> > > > > how about split, but have strict dep for some time? (this 
> > > > > question already was here, but now goal is little different)
> > > > How about Suggests in base coreutils?
> > > even better, don't have to change it in the future then.
> > Suggests won't help if you are making automatic upgrade...
> doesn't poldek ask you about the suggest items do you want to install 
> them? poldek-0.21 keeps you asking them forever, but poldek-0.30 was 
> afaik little smarter.
> 
> or you're suggesting that poldek --noask will default all suggest 
> answers to No?

Default answer for every Suggest is "No"..

If you have "--noask" you won't even see question about installation of 
su-subpackage.

Anyway - this will happen on builders, AFAIK. arekm?


You can't assume that every instalation is interactive...

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From arekm at maven.pl  Sat Jun 28 13:00:54 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:00:54 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>

On Saturday 28 June 2008, adamg wrote:
> Author: adamg                        Date: Fri Jun 27 22:41:03 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - updated to 1.1.0


Development series? We want stable wine.

>
> ---- Files affected:
> SPECS:
>    wine.spec (1.322 -> 1.323)

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sat Jun 28 13:43:39 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:43:39 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:00:54PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> On Saturday 28 June 2008, adamg wrote:
> > Author: adamg                        Date: Fri Jun 27 22:41:03 2008 GMT
> > Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > ---- Log message:
> > - updated to 1.1.0
> 
> 
> Development series? We want stable wine.

And have new wine version every 15 years or so? :)

Look at the release notes - they are bugfixes and new features (new
functions) implemented. 

I don't see why this can't go to Th, especially as there are beta
versions of kde4.

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From arekm at maven.pl  Sat Jun 28 13:53:19 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:53:19 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <200806281353.19722.arekm@maven.pl>

On Saturday 28 June 2008, Adam Go??biowski wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:00:54PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> > On Saturday 28 June 2008, adamg wrote:
> > > Author: adamg                        Date: Fri Jun 27 22:41:03 2008 GMT
> > > Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > > ---- Log message:
> > > - updated to 1.1.0
> >
> > Development series? We want stable wine.
>
> And have new wine version every 15 years or so? :)
>
> Look at the release notes - they are bugfixes and new features (new
> functions) implemented.

Heh, ok, fine fo rme.

> I don't see why this can't go to Th, especially as there are beta
> versions of kde4.

Where? I see some packages in test only.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From hawk at limanowa.net  Sat Jun 28 15:17:27 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:17:27 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>

> I don't see why this can't go to Th, especially as there are beta
> versions of kde4.

I vote for moving it to DEVEL branch. Why make exception for this spec? 
It still can be built from DEVEL for Th test.

If its unacceptable then please branch 1.0 as WINE_STABLE or something 
so it may be still maintained (you've commited 1.1, you'll now have to 
retrieve correct revisions for 1.0 and branch them :)).

M.


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sat Jun 28 18:14:36 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:14:36 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <200806281353.19722.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<200806281353.19722.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <20080628161436.GB23220@mysza.eu.org>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:53:19PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> On Saturday 28 June 2008, Adam Go??biowski wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:00:54PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> > > On Saturday 28 June 2008, adamg wrote:
> > > > Author: adamg                        Date: Fri Jun 27 22:41:03 2008 GMT
> > > > Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > > > ---- Log message:
> > > > - updated to 1.1.0
> > >
> > > Development series? We want stable wine.
> >
> > And have new wine version every 15 years or so? :)
> >
> > Look at the release notes - they are bugfixes and new features (new
> > functions) implemented.
> 
> Heh, ok, fine fo rme.
> 
> > I don't see why this can't go to Th, especially as there are beta
> > versions of kde4.
> 
> Where? I see some packages in test only.

I saw kde4-kdelibs-4.0.83-1 sent as ready, it failed, but I assume it
was intented to go into mainline. And 4.0.83 is beta. I guess if we dug
more, we could find more beta releases in th (tig.spec being one of
them). It's just a matter of common sense. 

Nevertheless, I'm happy you agreed on wine-1.1.0 in Th 

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sat Jun 28 18:16:19 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:16:19 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <20080628161619.GC23220@mysza.eu.org>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 03:17:27PM +0200, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > I don't see why this can't go to Th, especially as there are beta
> > versions of kde4.
> 
> I vote for moving it to DEVEL branch. Why make exception for this spec? 
> It still can be built from DEVEL for Th test.
> 
> If its unacceptable then please branch 1.0 as WINE_STABLE or something 
> so it may be still maintained (you've commited 1.1, you'll now have to 
> retrieve correct revisions for 1.0 and branch them :)).

And bump epoch? Oh boy... how 'bout Ti-branch then? You could have 1.0.0
in Ti, and once 1.1.x becomes stable, you would just bump version, no
epoch bymp needed.

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sat Jun 28 18:17:55 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:17:55 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <20080628161436.GB23220@mysza.eu.org>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<200806281353.19722.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628161436.GB23220@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0806280917r5039cb8aj13ea750ed2fe07c3@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Adam Go??biowski <adamg at biomerieux.pl> wrote:
> Nevertheless, I'm happy you agreed on wine-1.1.0 in Th

As a heavy wine user (gaming) I also hope 1.1.0 is here to stay in Th.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From hawk at limanowa.net  Sat Jun 28 21:33:36 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:33:36 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <20080628161619.GC23220@mysza.eu.org>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>	<486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>
	<20080628161619.GC23220@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <48669210.1010001@limanowa.net>

> And bump epoch? Oh boy...

No need to. 1.1.0 wasn't built for Titanium yet.

> how 'bout Ti-branch then?

Aww, it sucks :) "Titanium" is default branch name for, ehm, Titanium :)

> You could have 1.0.0
> in Ti, and once 1.1.x becomes stable, you would just bump version, no
> epoch bymp needed.

I didn't decided yet if 1.1.0 should go to Titanium or not. However I 
don't like forcing devel versions on HEAD just because "they're available".

M.


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sat Jun 28 21:43:45 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:43:45 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <48669210.1010001@limanowa.net>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>
	<20080628161619.GC23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<48669210.1010001@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <20080628194345.GD23220@mysza.eu.org>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 09:33:36PM +0200, Marcin Krol wrote:
> > And bump epoch? Oh boy...
> 
> No need to. 1.1.0 wasn't built for Titanium yet.

We'd have to if arekm rejected wine-1.1.0 (it was sent to builders).
Luckily, it's not needed.

> > You could have 1.0.0
> > in Ti, and once 1.1.x becomes stable, you would just bump version, no
> > epoch bymp needed.
> 
> I didn't decided yet if 1.1.0 should go to Titanium or not. However I 
> don't like forcing devel versions on HEAD just because "they're available".

Rejecting devel versions just because they are devel versions is no
good either - it's like... should we drop mutt-1.5 from HEAD? Or
kde*branch 3.5.x diffs?

As I said - it's just a matter of common sense. 

-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From hawk at limanowa.net  Sat Jun 28 21:53:24 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:53:24 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <20080628194345.GD23220@mysza.eu.org>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>	<486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>	<20080628161619.GC23220@mysza.eu.org>	<48669210.1010001@limanowa.net>
	<20080628194345.GD23220@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <486696B4.8090103@limanowa.net>

> Rejecting devel versions just because they are devel versions is no
> good either

True. There are some devel versions in Titanium :)

> - it's like... should we drop mutt-1.5 from HEAD? Or
> kde*branch 3.5.x diffs?
> 
> As I said - it's just a matter of common sense. 

I just don't like version number rush, thats all. Its usually like "oh, 
boy, new version, cvs commit". Thats not good thing. Not to mention that 
usually there is no single word in cvs log why someone decided to put 
devel version on HEAD :(

M.


From wolf.pld at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 22:20:10 2008
From: wolf.pld at gmail.com (Bartosz Taudul)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:20:10 +0200
Subject: SPECS: wine.spec - updated to 1.1.0
In-Reply-To: <486696B4.8090103@limanowa.net>
References: <SPECS_wine.spec.1.322@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_wine.spec.1.323@pld-linux.org>
	<200806281300.55013.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20080628114339.GA23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<486639E7.7030405@limanowa.net>
	<20080628161619.GC23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<48669210.1010001@limanowa.net>
	<20080628194345.GD23220@mysza.eu.org>
	<486696B4.8090103@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <20080628202010.GA18871@bajzel>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, Marcin Krol wrote:
> I just don't like version number rush, thats all. Its usually like "oh, 
> boy, new version, cvs commit". Thats not good thing. Not to mention that 
> usually there is no single word in cvs log why someone decided to put 
> devel version on HEAD :(
http://www.winehq.org/?announce=1.1.0

I think it's self-explanatory.

wolf
-- 
  Bartek   .  
  Taudul   :  
          .:....................................................................
w o l f @ p l d - l i n u x . o r g            .:. http://wolf.valkyrie.one.pl/


From adamg at biomerieux.pl  Sun Jun 29 23:53:42 2008
From: adamg at biomerieux.pl (Adam =?utf-8?B?R2/FgsSZYmlvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:53:42 +0200
Subject: dropin ?
Message-ID: <20080629215342.GA6770@mysza.eu.org>

Is dropin.pld-linux.org b0rked?

[adamg at ook ~]$ lftp -u adamg dropin.pld-linux.org
Password:
lftp adamg at dropin.pld-linux.org:~> ls
ls: Login failed: 530 Login incorrect.
lftp adamg at dropin.pld-linux.org:~>

I'm pretty sure I typed my password correct at least once on about 10
attempts... has anything changed regarding dropin usage recently?
-- 
 http://www.mysza.eu.org/ | Everybody needs someone sure, someone true,
   PLD Linux developer    | Everybody needs some solid rock, I know I do.


From hawk at limanowa.net  Sun Jun 29 23:58:49 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:58:49 +0200
Subject: dropin ?
In-Reply-To: <20080629215342.GA6770@mysza.eu.org>
References: <20080629215342.GA6770@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <48680599.40903@limanowa.net>

> I'm pretty sure I typed my password correct at least once on about 10
> attempts... has anything changed regarding dropin usage recently?

I've logged in on first attempt. Check your keyboard ;-)

M.


From arekm at maven.pl  Mon Jun 30 00:07:02 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:07:02 +0200
Subject: dropin ?
In-Reply-To: <20080629215342.GA6770@mysza.eu.org>
References: <20080629215342.GA6770@mysza.eu.org>
Message-ID: <200806300007.02571.arekm@maven.pl>

On Sunday 29 June 2008, Adam Go??biowski wrote:
> Is dropin.pld-linux.org b0rked?
>
> [adamg at ook ~]$ lftp -u adamg dropin.pld-linux.org
> Password:
> lftp adamg at dropin.pld-linux.org:~> ls
> ls: Login failed: 530 Login incorrect.
> lftp adamg at dropin.pld-linux.org:~>
>
> I'm pretty sure I typed my password correct at least once on about 10
> attempts... has anything changed regarding dropin usage recently?

Probably tmpwatch cleaned up /tmp where symlinks used by dropin were created.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From freetz at gmx.net  Mon Jun 30 19:48:59 2008
From: freetz at gmx.net (Fryderyk Dziarmagowski)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:48:59 +0200
Subject: SPECS (DEVEL): shared-mime-info.spec - proper glib2 deps -
	moved to DEVEL
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_shared_mime_info.spec.1.51.2.1@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_shared_mime_info.spec.1.51@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_shared_mime_info.spec.1.51.2.1@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080630194859.ef98c93c.freetz@gmx.net>

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:28:30 +0200
patrys <patrys at pld-linux.org> wrote:

> Author: patrys                       Date: Mon Jun 30 08:28:30 2008
> GMT Module: SPECS                         Tag: DEVEL
> ---- Log message:
> - proper glib2 deps
[...]
> +Requires:	glib2 >= 1:2.17.2

What is the cause of this change?

-- 
Fryderyk Dziarmagowski