From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sat Mar  1 13:52:32 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:52:32 +0100
Subject: inkscape - S: or R:
Message-ID: <200803011352.40394.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Effects -> Modify Path -> Perspective

"The inkex.py module requires PyXML. Please download the latest version from 
<http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/>."

# poldek -u python-PyXML

Effects -> Modify Path -> Perspective

"Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/inkscape/extensions/perspective.py", line 23, in <module>
    from numpy import *
ImportError: No module named numpy "

# poldek -u python-numpy

Effects -> Modify Path -> Perspective

Works.

Should I add them as R: or S: in inkscape.spec?

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From megabajt at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar  1 17:27:09 2008
From: megabajt at pld-linux.org (Marcin Banasiak)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:27:09 +0100
Subject: inkscape - S: or R:
In-Reply-To: <200803011352.40394.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803011352.40394.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <1204388829.4039.1.camel@localhost>

Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> Should I add them as R: or S: in inkscape.spec?

I think that S: should be fine.

-- 
Marcin Banasiak



From glen at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar  2 19:49:51 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:49:51 +0200
Subject: kernel-desktop-module-build
In-Reply-To: <20080227140858.GA11064@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <20080227101331.GA12422@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200802271442.11117.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080227140858.GA11064@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <200803022049.52320.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Wednesday 27 February 2008 16:08:58 Tomasz Pala wrote:
> > > BTW are there any plans to build additional modules (e.g.
> > > kernel-net-*), for kernel-{desktop,laptop}?
> >
> > probably on demand, as imho no point building stuff that nobody uses :)
>
> I use kernel-net-iwl3945 on laptop (kernel-laptop).
> I would use kernel-net-r1000 (now I have r8169).

what's wrong with r1000 module from mainline kernel?

> And there are many laptop related packages, kernel-pcmcia is such a
> stuff I think:)

kernel-pcmcia cames from mainline kernel package.


-- 
glen


From glen at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar  2 19:55:01 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:55:01 +0200
Subject: inkscape - S: or R:
In-Reply-To: <200803011352.40394.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803011352.40394.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <200803022055.01649.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Saturday 01 March 2008 14:52:32 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> Should I add them as R: or S: in inkscape.spec?

package addon as subpkg and add R: ?

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar  2 20:30:03 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:30:03 +0100
Subject: inkscape - S: or R:
In-Reply-To: <200803022055.01649.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200803011352.40394.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803022055.01649.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803021130q113c11a1y701a94fe55e0ec69@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 01 March 2008 14:52:32 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
>  > Should I add them as R: or S: in inkscape.spec?
>  package addon as subpkg and add R: ?

+1

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From gotar at polanet.pl  Sun Mar  2 20:42:28 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:42:28 +0100
Subject: kernel-desktop-module-build
In-Reply-To: <200803022049.52320.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <20080227101331.GA12422@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200802271442.11117.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080227140858.GA11064@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200803022049.52320.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080302194228.GA10596@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:49:51 +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> > I would use kernel-net-r1000 (now I have r8169).
> 
> what's wrong with r1000 module from mainline kernel?

Hmmm... it's not compiled at all in PLD?

poldek:/all-avail> rsearch -f /r1000/ kernel*
Searching packages..........................................done.
9 package(s) found:
kernel-desktop-headers-2.6.22.18-1
kernel-desktop-source-2.6.22.18-1
kernel-grsecurity-headers-2.6.22.18-1
kernel-grsecurity-source-2.6.22.18-1
kernel-headers-2.6.22.18-1
kernel-laptop-headers-2.6.22.18-2
kernel-laptop-source-2.6.22.18-2
kernel-net-r1000-1.05-5 at 2.6.22.18_1
kernel-source-2.6.22.18-1

> > And there are many laptop related packages, kernel-pcmcia is such a
> > stuff I think:)
> 
> kernel-pcmcia cames from mainline kernel package.

That's exactly what I'm talking about - there should be
kernel-laptop-pcmcia, otherwise people having PCMCIA hardware cannot use
kernel-laptop.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From glen at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar  2 23:34:49 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:34:49 +0200
Subject: kernel-desktop-module-build
In-Reply-To: <20080302194228.GA10596@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <20080227101331.GA12422@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200803022049.52320.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<20080302194228.GA10596@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <200803030034.50037.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Sunday 02 March 2008 21:42:28 Tomasz Pala wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:49:51 +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > I would use kernel-net-r1000 (now I have r8169).
> >
> > what's wrong with r1000 module from mainline kernel?
>
> Hmmm... it's not compiled at all in PLD?
>
> poldek:/all-avail> rsearch -f /r1000/ kernel*
> Searching packages..........................................done.
> 9 package(s) found:
> kernel-desktop-headers-2.6.22.18-1
> kernel-desktop-source-2.6.22.18-1
> kernel-grsecurity-headers-2.6.22.18-1
> kernel-grsecurity-source-2.6.22.18-1
> kernel-headers-2.6.22.18-1
> kernel-laptop-headers-2.6.22.18-2
> kernel-laptop-source-2.6.22.18-2
> kernel-net-r1000-1.05-5 at 2.6.22.18_1
> kernel-source-2.6.22.18-1
sorry, confused with e1000

> > > And there are many laptop related packages, kernel-pcmcia is such a
> > > stuff I think:)
> >
> > kernel-pcmcia cames from mainline kernel package.
>
> That's exactly what I'm talking about - there should be
> kernel-laptop-pcmcia, otherwise people having PCMCIA hardware cannot use
> kernel-laptop.

and it is exactly there:
$ rpm -q --qf '%{SOURCERPM}\n' kernel-laptop-pcmcia
kernel-laptop-2.6.22.17-1.src.rpm
kernel-laptop-2.6.22.18-2.src.rpm

i don't get what's your problem. express yourself better?

-- 
glen


From gotar at polanet.pl  Mon Mar  3 09:42:46 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:42:46 +0100
Subject: kernel-desktop-module-build
In-Reply-To: <200803030034.50037.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <20080227101331.GA12422@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200803022049.52320.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<20080302194228.GA10596@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200803030034.50037.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080303084246.GA25831@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 00:34:49 +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> > That's exactly what I'm talking about - there should be
> > kernel-laptop-pcmcia, otherwise people having PCMCIA hardware cannot use
> > kernel-laptop.
> 
> and it is exactly there:

I must have missed it.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar  4 17:40:58 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:40:58 +0200
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
Message-ID: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>

anyone have vserver in th?
does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?

ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.

that is using external pkg management

-- 
glen


From baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl  Tue Mar  4 18:06:22 2008
From: baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl (Jan Rekorajski)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:06:22 +0100
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> anyone have vserver in th?
> does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
> 
> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> 
> that is using external pkg management

Lots of them, didn't have time to investigate as everything seems to
work despite those.

Janek
-- 
Jan Rekorajski            |  ALL SUSPECTS ARE GUILTY. PERIOD!
baggins<at>mimuw.edu.pl   |  OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE SUSPECTS, WOULD THEY?
BOFH, MANIAC              |                   -- TROOPS by Kevin Rubio


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar  4 18:30:16 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:30:16 +0200
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <200803041930.16435.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 04 March 2008 19:06:22 Jan Rekorajski wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > anyone have vserver in th?
> > does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
> >
> > ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from
> > LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> >
> > that is using external pkg management
>
> Lots of them, didn't have time to investigate as everything seems to
> work despite those.

vserver initial build however failed, as rc=1 was returned.

so far i managed to collect information from #vserver and #rpm:

- in rpm 4.4.9 execve() is replaced with rpm_execcon if compiled with selinux, however the error is still present if i compile rpm without selinux
- daniel_hozac sais the problem is because LD_PRELOAD is not unset as execv() overloaded function is not called from rpm

but i noticed i get different error if i put the rpm-fake.so inside vserver, so i'd rathet suspect the chroot which is done earlier in 4.4.9 is the cause.

but imho LD_PRELOAD should load library even before /bin/rpm reaches main() ...


17:10:19 root[pts/1]@toothy /vservers/builder64# vrpm builder64 -- -Uhv rpm-base-4.4.9-46.1.amd64.rpm
Preparing...                ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
########################################### [100%]
        package rpm-base-4.4.9-46.1 is already installed

17:10:21 root[pts/1]@toothy /vservers/builder64# install /usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so .//usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so

17:11:15 root[pts/1]@toothy /vservers/builder64# vrpm builder64 -- -Uhv rpm-base-4.4.9-46.1.amd64.rpm
Preparing...                rpm-fake.so: chdir(): No such file or directory
rpm-fake.so: failed to initialize communication with resolver
########################################### [100%]
        package rpm-base-4.4.9-46.1 is already installed
17:11:18 root[pts/1]@toothy /vservers/builder64#


-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar  4 18:45:07 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:07 +0200
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <200803041945.07603.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 04 March 2008 19:06:22 Jan Rekorajski wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > anyone have vserver in th?
> > does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
> >
> > ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from
> > LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> >
> > that is using external pkg management
>
> Lots of them, didn't have time to investigate as everything seems to
> work despite those.

that everything excludes running %scriptlets:

   8:openssh-server         ########################################### [100%]
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.

it should say:
   8:openssh-server         ########################################### [100%]
Run "/sbin/service sshd start" to start openssh daemon.

> Janek

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar  4 18:47:56 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:47:56 +0200
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <200803041945.07603.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
	<200803041945.07603.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200803041947.56831.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 04 March 2008 19:45:07 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 March 2008 19:06:22 Jan Rekorajski wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > anyone have vserver in th?
> > > does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
> > >
> > > ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from
> > > LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> > >
> > > that is using external pkg management
> >
> > Lots of them, didn't have time to investigate as everything seems to
> > work despite those.
>
> that everything excludes running %scriptlets:
>
>    8:openssh-server         ###########################################
> [100%] ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from
> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.

oops. not displayed due other reasons, but %post is executed:

D:   install: %post(openssh-server-4.7p1-3.amd64) asynchronous scriptlet start
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
D:   install: %post(openssh-server-4.7p1-3.amd64)       execv(/bin/sh) pid 16141
+ /sbin/chkconfig --add sshd
+ skip_auto_restart
+ [ yes = no ]
+ grep -qs ssh /etc/security/passwd.conf
D:   install: waitpid(16141) rc 16141 status 0 secs 0.005



>
> it should say:
>    8:openssh-server         ###########################################
> [100%] Run "/sbin/service sshd start" to start openssh daemon.
>
> > Janek



-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar  4 19:43:40 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:43:40 +0200
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
Message-ID: <200803042043.40155.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 04 March 2008 19:06:22 Jan Rekorajski wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > anyone have vserver in th?
> > does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
> >
> > ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from
> > LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> >
> > that is using external pkg management
>
> Lots of them, didn't have time to investigate as everything seems to
> work despite those.
>
> Janek

quick fix:
# echo '%_tmppath      /tmp' >> /etc/vservers/<guest>/apps/pkgmgmt/base/rpm/etc/macros

the problem is that %() macros are expanded with system(2),

but that call is not overloaded by rpm-fake.so, which should unset LD_PRELOAD variable.
currently rpm-fake.so overloads just execv()/rpm_execcon().

--
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar  4 19:57:06 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:57:06 +0200
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <200803042043.40155.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080304170622.GV3354@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>
	<200803042043.40155.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200803042057.06430.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 04 March 2008 20:43:40 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 March 2008 19:06:22 Jan Rekorajski wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > anyone have vserver in th?
> > > does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
> > >
> > > ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from
> > > LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> > >
> > > that is using external pkg management
> >
> > Lots of them, didn't have time to investigate as everything seems to
> > work despite those.
> >
> > Janek
>
> quick fix:
> # echo '%_tmppath      /tmp' >>
> /etc/vservers/<guest>/apps/pkgmgmt/base/rpm/etc/macros

so the trouble maker is this difference:

rpm 4.4.2:
$ grep ^%_tmppath /usr/lib/rpm/macros
%_tmppath               %{_var}/tmp

rpm 4.4.9:
$ grep ^%_tmppath /usr/lib/rpm/macros
%_tmppath               %(echo "${TMPDIR:-/tmp}")

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar  4 20:42:07 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:42:07 +0100
Subject: vserver & rpm 4.4.9
In-Reply-To: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200803041840.59177.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803041142v4213fed2xe1438d355e798647@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> anyone have vserver in th?
>  does your vrpm/vpoldek spit out these errors?
>
>  ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
>
>  that is using external pkg management

It is trying to preload twice, once before doing chroot (in v*) and
the second time after chroot, when running inside so it's unable to
load the library as it's not present there. A quick fix would be to
clear LD_PRELOAD after chrooting, not sure if it will break anything.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From glen at delfi.ee  Fri Mar  7 11:12:59 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:12:59 +0200
Subject: kernel-desktop-module-build
In-Reply-To: <200803030034.50037.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <20080227101331.GA12422@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<20080302194228.GA10596@pepin.polanet.pl>
	<200803030034.50037.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803071212.59305.glen@delfi.ee>

On Monday 03 March 2008 00:34:49 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Sunday 02 March 2008 21:42:28 Tomasz Pala wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:49:51 +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > > > I would use kernel-net-r1000 (now I have r8169).
> > >
> > > what's wrong with r1000 module from mainline kernel?
> >
> > Hmmm... it's not compiled at all in PLD?

btw i use r8169 module from 2.6.22.19-2 kernel.

-- 
glen


From hawk at limanowa.net  Mon Mar 10 00:22:18 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:22:18 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
Message-ID: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>

Hi.

I was just udpating my Ac chroots used by CRI. There are two very bad 
bugs in current Ac (main + updates).

1. module-init-tools (3.2.2-3) has broken modinfo (and probably more 
stuff). It doesn't work with 2.4 kernel. Try 'modinfo piix' or any other 
module. It will say you something like 
"/lib/modules/2.4.35-1smp/drivers/ide/pci/piix.o.gz: No such file or 
directory". But file exists and has correct permissions. On 2.6.x 
kernels it works ok.

Since geninitrd is using modinfo there is currently no way to generate 
initrd for 2.4.x kernels.

2. Kernel 2.6.16.60 is broken. On all machines when where I tried to 
boot it (including VirtualBox) it just displayed dozens of messages:

Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294

and it finally hangs so only cold boot works.

So there is currently no working kernel in Ac. 2.4 probably works, but 
no way to boot it as initrd can't be generated. 2.6 doesn't boot.

M.

P.S. Above test were all done using i686 architecture.


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Mon Mar 10 07:57:11 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:57:11 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <20080310065711.GA27173@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Marcin Krol wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I was just udpating my Ac chroots used by CRI. There are two very bad 
> bugs in current Ac (main + updates).
> 
> 1. module-init-tools (3.2.2-3) has broken modinfo (and probably more 
> stuff). It doesn't work with 2.4 kernel. Try 'modinfo piix' or any other 
> module. It will say you something like 
> "/lib/modules/2.4.35-1smp/drivers/ide/pci/piix.o.gz: No such file or 
> directory". But file exists and has correct permissions. On 2.6.x 
> kernels it works ok.

Are modutils installed?

The only thing module-init-tools can do on 2.4.x is to exec modutils
counterpart.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From hawk at limanowa.net  Mon Mar 10 10:59:09 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:59:09 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <20080310065711.GA27173@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
	<20080310065711.GA27173@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <47D5066D.7070500@limanowa.net>

> Are modutils installed?
> 
> The only thing module-init-tools can do on 2.4.x is to exec modutils
> counterpart.

Yes. They're installed.

# rpm -q modutils module-init-tools kernel24-smp
modutils-2.4.27-7.i686
module-init-tools-3.2.2-3.i686
kernel24-smp-2.4.35-1.i686

M.


From hawk at limanowa.net  Mon Mar 10 13:48:41 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:48:41 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <47D52E29.5020101@limanowa.net>

> 2. Kernel 2.6.16.60 is broken. On all machines when where I tried to 
> boot it (including VirtualBox) it just displayed dozens of messages:
> 
> Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294
> 
> and it finally hangs so only cold boot works.

This seems to happen on machines w/o PAE. Broken PAE bcond? (-ENOTIME to 
check myself).

M.


From jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org  Mon Mar 10 19:30:00 2008
From: jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org (Jacek =?utf-8?q?Rz=C4=99sista?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:30:00 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200803101930.01017.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>

Monday 10 March 2008 00:22:18 Marcin Krol napisa?(a):
> Hi.
>
> I was just udpating my Ac chroots used by CRI. There are two very bad
> bugs in current Ac (main + updates).
>
> 1. module-init-tools (3.2.2-3) has broken modinfo (and probably more
> stuff). It doesn't work with 2.4 kernel. Try 'modinfo piix' or any other
> module. It will say you something like
> "/lib/modules/2.4.35-1smp/drivers/ide/pci/piix.o.gz: No such file or
> directory". But file exists and has correct permissions. On 2.6.x
> kernels it works ok.
>
> Since geninitrd is using modinfo there is currently no way to generate
> initrd for 2.4.x kernels.
Hmmm,  it's seems more complicated :) All depends on version of geninitrd - 
with geninitrd-8385-1 all works OK, when I've upgraded geninitrd to version 
geninitrd-9000.5-1 - any try to generate initrd failed (I had communicate 
something like "couldn't find module aacraid"). When I've downgraded 
geninitrd - initrd was generated.
Lately I had also problem with upgrade rpm from 4.4.2 to 4.4.9 - rpm database 
was cleared. Any --rebuilddb didn't help.  

-- 
Jacek Rz?sista


From hawk at limanowa.net  Tue Mar 11 00:39:56 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:39:56 +0100
Subject: geninitrd + udev
Message-ID: <47D5C6CC.1040000@limanowa.net>

I've been playing a bit with udev inside initrd. Currently it doesn't 
work at all because after starting 'udevd --daemon' /dev is almost empty 
(just basic entries like null, console, etc., no device nodes). This may 
be fixed by using PROBESTATICMODULES=yes in geninitrd (just commited 
small fixes to make this option work).

So here is a question to people who know udev better than I. Should we 
always call udevsettle and udevtrigger after starting udevd? IMHO yes. 
Otherwise there will be no /dev entries for devices supported by modules 
which were loaded before udevd was started. If answer will be 'yes' then 
I'll drop PROBESTATICMODULES variable and make udevsettle/udevtrigger 
always executed after udevd. If answer will be 'no' then what must be 
done to populate /dev with nodes for devices initiated before starting 
udevd.

Now, even after applying changes proposed above there was still problem 
with mdassemble. /dev/mdX nodes were not created by udev making 
mdassemble fail. This will be probably fixed by this change:
http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/SPECS/mdadm.spec?r1=1.73&r2=1.74

I'll test it tomorrow. I'll also test initrd with udev and lvm.

M.


From hawk at limanowa.net  Tue Mar 11 11:11:14 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:11:14 +0100
Subject: geninitrd + udev
In-Reply-To: <47D5C6CC.1040000@limanowa.net>
References: <47D5C6CC.1040000@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <47D65AC2.1010800@limanowa.net>

> I'll test it tomorrow. I'll also test initrd with udev and lvm.

I've already commited changes to geninitrd. Now it works properly with 
udev inside initrd. Tested with root fs on raid1, lvm2 and lvm2 on top 
of raid1.

M.


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar 11 19:40:35 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:40:35 +0100
Subject: sudo parse errors
Message-ID: <20080311184035.GA15857@stranger.qboosh.pl>

sudo since 1.6.9p14 reports bogus sudoers parse errors when unauthorized
command is called:

$ sudo xxx
sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line -1

There is no error when calling authorized command.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From mike at osdn.org.ua  Tue Mar 11 22:05:14 2008
From: mike at osdn.org.ua (Michael Shigorin)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:05:14 +0200
Subject: geninitrd + udev
In-Reply-To: <47D5C6CC.1040000@limanowa.net>
References: <47D5C6CC.1040000@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <20080311210514.GZ30523@osdn.org.ua>

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:39:56AM +0100, Marcin Krol wrote:
> I've been playing a bit with udev inside initrd. Currently it
> doesn't work at all because after starting 'udevd --daemon'
> /dev is almost empty (just basic entries like null, console,
> etc., no device nodes). This may be fixed by using
> PROBESTATICMODULES=yes in geninitrd (just commited small fixes
> to make this option work).

You might also want to look into ALT Linux mkinitrd package,
we've been using it that way for 1.5 years by now.

http://git.altlinux.org/people/vsu/packages/?p=mkinitrd.git

-- 
 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike at altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/


From undefine at aramin.net  Wed Mar 12 23:50:36 2008
From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:50:36 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <20080310065711.GA27173@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
	<20080310065711.GA27173@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <20080312225035.GA28335@aramin.net>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 07:57:11AM +0100, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> > I was just udpating my Ac chroots used by CRI. There are two very bad 
> > bugs in current Ac (main + updates).
> > 
> > 1. module-init-tools (3.2.2-3) has broken modinfo (and probably more 
> > stuff). It doesn't work with 2.4 kernel. Try 'modinfo piix' or any other 
> > module. It will say you something like 
> > "/lib/modules/2.4.35-1smp/drivers/ide/pci/piix.o.gz: No such file or 
> > directory". But file exists and has correct permissions. On 2.6.x 
> > kernels it works ok.
> 
> Are modutils installed?
> 
> The only thing module-init-tools can do on 2.4.x is to exec modutils
> counterpart.
hm.. modinfo don't invoke modinfo from modutils - it just try to parse
/lib/modules/{version}/modules.dep.
Invoking - is bad idea, because modutils didn't support use of other
kernel from installed - what is needed by our geninitrd. For
module-init-tools this option is provided by
%{name}-modinfo-kernelversion.patch patch.

Problem is in parsing modules.dep - in modules.dep from 2.6 there is no
empty lines between modules. In modules.dep from 2.4 - there are empty
lines between modules, and finally it try to open file
'\n/lib/modules/.../piix.gz' - what will fail ;)

i don't know what is "right way fix" - fix modinfo to don't use empty
lines, or fix depmod from modutils to don't generate empty lines ;)

-- 
Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a
Linux && Unix && Network administrator
PLD Linux Developer      HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/
JID: undefine at piastlan.net         e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name


From undefine at aramin.net  Wed Mar 12 23:53:44 2008
From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:53:44 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <200803101930.01017.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
	<200803101930.01017.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
Message-ID: <20080312225344.GB28335@aramin.net>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 07:30:00PM +0100, Jacek Rz?sista wrote:
> > 1. module-init-tools (3.2.2-3) has broken modinfo (and probably more
> > stuff). It doesn't work with 2.4 kernel. Try 'modinfo piix' or any other
> > module. It will say you something like
> > "/lib/modules/2.4.35-1smp/drivers/ide/pci/piix.o.gz: No such file or
> > directory". But file exists and has correct permissions. On 2.6.x
> > kernels it works ok.
> >
> > Since geninitrd is using modinfo there is currently no way to generate
> > initrd for 2.4.x kernels.
> Hmmm,  it's seems more complicated :) All depends on version of geninitrd - 
> with geninitrd-8385-1 all works OK, when I've upgraded geninitrd to version 
> geninitrd-9000.5-1 - any try to generate initrd failed (I had communicate 
> something like "couldn't find module aacraid"). When I've downgraded 
> geninitrd - initrd was generated.
older geninitrd didn't invoked modinfo - it just self parsed dependencies.
Bug is in modinfo from module-init-tools which didn't support 2.4 format
of modules.dep, or in modutils, which generate bad modules.dep...

> Lately I had also problem with upgrade rpm from 4.4.2 to 4.4.9 - rpm database 
> was cleared. Any --rebuilddb didn't help.  
weirdy..
i upgraded nearly all my machines (including machines on i686, athlon,
amd64, alpha, sparc... ;) - and i haven't any problem with clearing rpm
database.
I always:
- install lzma
- upgrade -G poldek rpm
- after exit rpm --rebuilddb
- upgrade -G *

-- 
Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a
Linux && Unix && Network administrator
PLD Linux Developer      HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/
JID: undefine at piastlan.net         e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name


From glen at pld-linux.org  Thu Mar 13 00:18:17 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:18:17 +0200
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.7@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.7@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803130118.17506.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:05, patrys wrote:
> -Requires:??????shadow
> +Requires:??????pwdutils

isn't the "shadow" virtual that pwdutils provides?

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Thu Mar 13 14:09:21 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:09:21 +0200
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <20080312225344.GB28335@aramin.net>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
	<200803101930.01017.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
	<20080312225344.GB28335@aramin.net>
Message-ID: <200803131509.22321.glen@delfi.ee>

On Thursday 13 March 2008 00:53:44 Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a wrote:
> > Lately I had also problem with upgrade rpm from 4.4.2 to 4.4.9 - rpm
> > database was cleared. Any --rebuilddb didn't help.
>
> weirdy..
> i upgraded nearly all my machines (including machines on i686, athlon,
> amd64, alpha, sparc... ;) - and i haven't any problem with clearing rpm
> database.
there was rpm --rebuilddb at some point inside rpm trigger, that caused last 
transaction being lost as rebuilddb when finished replaces /var/lib/rpm 
directory with contents that were before the end of transaction. this evil 
mistake is now removed.

> I always:
> - install lzma
> - upgrade -G poldek rpm
> - after exit rpm --rebuilddb
> - upgrade -G *

poldek --up --upa
poldek -u rpm
poldek --upgrade-dist

use the command line power! :)

-- 
glen


From undefine at aramin.net  Thu Mar 13 15:37:18 2008
From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:37:18 +0100
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <200803131509.22321.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net>
	<200803101930.01017.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
	<20080312225344.GB28335@aramin.net>
	<200803131509.22321.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <20080313143718.GA2797@aramin.net>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:09:21PM +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2008 00:53:44 Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a wrote:
> > > Lately I had also problem with upgrade rpm from 4.4.2 to 4.4.9 - rpm
> > > database was cleared. Any --rebuilddb didn't help.
> >
> > weirdy..
> > i upgraded nearly all my machines (including machines on i686, athlon,
> > amd64, alpha, sparc... ;) - and i haven't any problem with clearing rpm
> > database.
> there was rpm --rebuilddb at some point inside rpm trigger, that caused last 
> transaction being lost as rebuilddb when finished replaces /var/lib/rpm 
> directory with contents that were before the end of transaction. this evil 
> mistake is now removed.
> 
> > I always:
> > - install lzma
> > - upgrade -G poldek rpm
> > - after exit rpm --rebuilddb
> > - upgrade -G *
> 
> poldek --up --upa
> poldek -u rpm
> poldek --upgrade-dist
> 
> use the command line power! :)
hm... it will not work - because it don't install lzma. why - i don't
know :) maybe bug in poldek or something...

-- 
Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a
Linux && Unix && Network administrator
PLD Linux Developer      HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/
JID: undefine at piastlan.net         e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name


From glen at delfi.ee  Thu Mar 13 15:59:41 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-2?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:59:41 +0200
Subject: Two serious problems with Ac
In-Reply-To: <20080313143718.GA2797@aramin.net>
References: <47D4712A.4050801@limanowa.net> <200803131509.22321.glen@delfi.ee>
	<20080313143718.GA2797@aramin.net>
Message-ID: <200803131659.41471.glen@delfi.ee>

On Thursday 13 March 2008 16:37:18 Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:09:21PM +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > On Thursday 13 March 2008 00:53:44 Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a 
wrote:
> > > > Lately I had also problem with upgrade rpm from 4.4.2 to 4.4.9 - rpm
> > > > database was cleared. Any --rebuilddb didn't help.
> > >
> > > weirdy..
> > > i upgraded nearly all my machines (including machines on i686, athlon,
> > > amd64, alpha, sparc... ;) - and i haven't any problem with clearing rpm
> > > database.
> >
> > there was rpm --rebuilddb at some point inside rpm trigger, that caused
> > last transaction being lost as rebuilddb when finished replaces
> > /var/lib/rpm directory with contents that were before the end of
> > transaction. this evil mistake is now removed.
> >
> > > I always:
> > > - install lzma
> > > - upgrade -G poldek rpm
> > > - after exit rpm --rebuilddb
> > > - upgrade -G *
> >
> > poldek --up --upa
> > poldek -u rpm
> > poldek --upgrade-dist
> >
> > use the command line power! :)
>
> hm... it will not work - because it don't install lzma. why - i don't
> know :) maybe bug in poldek or something...

yeah, this one probably:
https://bugs.pld-linux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83

i myself upgrade actually with:
poldek --up --upa
poldek --upgrade-dist

-- 
glen


From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Thu Mar 13 16:15:18 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?utf-8?q?B=C5=82aszkowski?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:15:18 +0100
Subject: SPECS: mdadm - sysconfig
Message-ID: <200803131615.18725@wojtosz>


removed MDADM_EMAIL from /etc/sysconfig/mdadm - option already set 
in /etc/mdadm.conf

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski
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From marcus at kernel.pl  Fri Mar 14 10:12:28 2008
From: marcus at kernel.pl (Marcin Bohosiewicz)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:12:28 +0100 (CET)
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
>
> let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?

Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN
putty (windows ssh client) can not connect to server.
Wrote "connection closed".

Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.

M.

-- 
-| == Marcin Bohosiewicz - MB8042-RIPE - marcus at kernel.pl	== |-
-| == tel. +48 601 485097 - PLD Team   - marcus at pld-linux.org   == |-
-| == http://www.kernel.pl/ -          ftp://ftp.kernel.pl/     == |-

From hawk at limanowa.net  Sat Mar 15 12:28:39 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:28:39 +0100
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 broken on Ac?
Message-ID: <47DBB2E7.6050406@limanowa.net>

Hello.

Yesterday I've encountered interesting behaviour on Ac machine. Frst 
I've upgraded rpm* and poldek* to latest versions available from Ac. 
Then after manual rpm --rebuilddb I've issued poldek --upgrade-dist.

Since system was quite old there were lot of packages and poldek output
was scrolling too fast to catch exact error messages, but I've seen 
dozens of errors like "db: illegal operation/command .03]1ac..][3 /tmp" 
or something similiar to that. ".03]1ac..][3" were always differnet pack 
of random junk characters.

When upgrade has finished I've encountered dozens of ".03]1ac..][3" and 
similiar junk directories in root directory of upgraded system. Most of 
them were empty, some of theme contained empty 'tmp' directory inside. 
I've deleted them all and launched installation of huge set of packages.

Again, there were same errors and same dozens of junk directories after
installation. There is probably some very ugly bug in Ac rpm 4.4.9.
However I think it needs something to "activate" as I didn't have such
issues on other systems where I've updated rpm. On the other hand I
wasn't doing such big upgrades/installs on those other systems.

Anyway, just wanted you to know. I've already put Titanium there :)

Cheers,
M.


From glen at delfi.ee  Sat Mar 15 17:02:29 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:02:29 +0200
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 broken on Ac?
In-Reply-To: <47DBB2E7.6050406@limanowa.net>
References: <47DBB2E7.6050406@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200803151802.29870.glen@delfi.ee>

On Saturday 15 March 2008 13:28, Marcin Krol wrote:
> When upgrade has finished I've encountered dozens of ".03]1ac..][3" and
> similiar junk directories in root directory of upgraded system. Most of
> them were empty, some of theme contained empty 'tmp' directory inside.
> I've deleted them all and launched installation of huge set of packages.

it could as well be trash created by poldek...
".03]1ac..][3" -- the dots are \033 aka escape? and ac is poldek source name 
probably? if this is true it links more to poldek than rpm (rpm doesn't do 
any colouring or have any idea what is "ac")

-- 
glen


From hawk at limanowa.net  Sat Mar 15 17:40:15 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:40:15 +0100
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 broken on Ac?
In-Reply-To: <200803151802.29870.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <47DBB2E7.6050406@limanowa.net> <200803151802.29870.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <47DBFBEF.20709@limanowa.net>

> it could as well be trash created by poldek...
> ".03]1ac..][3" -- the dots are \033 aka escape? and ac is poldek source name 
> probably? if this is true it links more to poldek than rpm (rpm doesn't do 
> any colouring or have any idea what is "ac")

The string above was an example typed by hand, not real one. Those 
strings were total garbage. \0ff, \0e7, various letters, numbers, 
non-printable characters, various lengths too. Anything you want. ls -l 
wasn't even able to display most of them and mc got totally messed up. 
They were all directories (no files at all) and most of them had empty 
tmp dir inside.

M.


From jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org  Sat Mar 15 19:48:15 2008
From: jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org (Jacek =?iso-8859-2?q?Rz=EAsista?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:48:15 +0100
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
Message-ID: <200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>

Friday 14 March 2008 10:12:28 Marcin Bohosiewicz napisa?(a):
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
> >
> > let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?
>
> Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN
> putty (windows ssh client) can not connect to server.
> Wrote "connection closed".
>
> Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.
Yes,  I had the same problem on AC. Downgrade helped.

-- 
Jacek Rz?sista


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 15 19:56:49 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:56:49 +0100
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
	<200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/15 Jacek Rz?sista <jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org>:
> Friday 14 March 2008 10:12:28 Marcin Bohosiewicz napisa?(a):
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>  > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
>  > >
>  > > let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?
>  >
>  > Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN
>  > putty (windows ssh client) can not connect to server.
>  > Wrote "connection closed".
>  >
>  > Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.
>  Yes,  I had the same problem on AC. Downgrade helped.

Which version? 0.60 was reported to support HPN IIRC

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 15 20:21:30 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:21:30 +0100
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
	<200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
	<89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080315192130.GA12059@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 07:56:49PM +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> 2008/3/15 Jacek Rz?sista <jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org>:
> > Friday 14 March 2008 10:12:28 Marcin Bohosiewicz napisa?(a):
> > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> >  > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
> >  > >
> >  > > let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?
> >  >
> >  > Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN
> >  > putty (windows ssh client) can not connect to server.
> >  > Wrote "connection closed".
> >  >
> >  > Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.
> >  Yes,  I had the same problem on AC. Downgrade helped.
> 
> Which version? 0.60 was reported to support HPN IIRC

Shouldn't matter; standard SSH client must be able to connect with sshd
using its default configuration. HPN support must not break it.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From marcus at kernel.pl  Sun Mar 16 09:19:23 2008
From: marcus at kernel.pl (Marcin Bohosiewicz)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:19:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
	<200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
	<89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803160917400.1034@an2.kernel.pl>

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:

> 2008/3/15 Jacek Rz?sista <jasio at myslenice.pl.eu.org>:
>> Friday 14 March 2008 10:12:28 Marcin Bohosiewicz napisa?(a):
>> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>>  > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
>>  > >
>>  > > let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?
>>  >
>>  > Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN
>>  > putty (windows ssh client) can not connect to server.
>>  > Wrote "connection closed".
>>  >
>>  > Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.
>>  Yes,  I had the same problem on AC. Downgrade helped.
>
> Which version? 0.60 was reported to support HPN IIRC

0.59 and older.

M.

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-| == tel. +48 601 485097 - PLD Team   - marcus at pld-linux.org   == |-
-| == http://www.kernel.pl/ -          ftp://ftp.kernel.pl/     == |-

From glen at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 16 13:06:07 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:06:07 +0200
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 broken on Ac?
In-Reply-To: <47DBFBEF.20709@limanowa.net>
References: <47DBB2E7.6050406@limanowa.net> <200803151802.29870.glen@delfi.ee>
	<47DBFBEF.20709@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200803161406.07815.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Saturday 15 March 2008 18:40:15 Marcin Krol wrote:
> > it could as well be trash created by poldek...
> > ".03]1ac..][3" -- the dots are \033 aka escape? and ac is poldek source
> > name probably? if this is true it links more to poldek than rpm (rpm
> > doesn't do any colouring or have any idea what is "ac")
>
> The string above was an example typed by hand, not real one. Those
> strings were total garbage. \0ff, \0e7, various letters, numbers,
> non-printable characters, various lengths too. Anything you want. ls -l
> wasn't even able to display most of them and mc got totally messed up.
> They were all directories (no files at all) and most of them had empty
> tmp dir inside.
>
> M.
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en

found too something similar from one vserver root dir:

13:59:02 root[pts/1]@valhalla /vservers/blog# l -b
total 13K
...
drwx------  2 root root   48 Mar 13 12:55 \200\270\024\b/
drwx------  2 root root   48 Mar 14 15:24 \310\272\247\267\310\272\247\267/
drwx------  3 root root   72 Mar 13 12:54 \330\312\247\267\330\312\247\267e/

only the last one contained empty dirs:

14:03:55 root[pts/1]@valhalla /vservers/blog# find  ????????e ???? ????????  -prune |egrep -v 'boot|home|proc|root|sbin'|xargs ls -lbR
\200\270\024\b:
total 0

\310\272\247\267\310\272\247\267:
total 0

\330\312\247\267\330\312\247\267e:
total 0
drwx------ 3 root root 72 Mar 13 12:54 home

\330\312\247\267\330\312\247\267e/home:
total 0
drwx------ 3 root root 72 Mar 13 12:54 fax

\330\312\247\267\330\312\247\267e/home/fax:
total 0
drwx------ 2 root root 48 Mar 13 12:54 tmp

\330\312\247\267\330\312\247\267e/home/fax/tmp:
total 0


-- 
glen


From blues at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 16 17:22:54 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:22:54 +0100 (CET)
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
	<200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
	<89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803161720550.23995@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >  > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
> >  > >
> >  > > let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?
> >  > Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN putty (windows ssh 
> >  > client) can not connect to server. Wrote "connection closed". 
> >  > Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.
> >  Yes, I had the same problem on AC. Downgrade helped.
> Which version? 0.60 was reported to support HPN IIRC

No matter - it shouldn't require fixed client version in any way. There is 
often not possible to fix anything on clients... (even some old systems).

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From undefine at aramin.net  Sun Mar 16 17:48:02 2008
From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:48:02 +0100
Subject: High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP [PSC]
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803160917400.1034@an2.kernel.pl>
References: <200802261544.19076.glen@delfi.ee>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141011010.30413@an2.kernel.pl>
	<200803151948.16417.jasio@myslenice.pl.eu.org>
	<89b6ba3a0803151156vf146abfnd28990123a630d35@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803160917400.1034@an2.kernel.pl>
Message-ID: <20080316164802.GA24455@aramin.net>

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:19:23AM +0100, Marcin Bohosiewicz wrote:
>>>  > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/faq.php
>>>  > >
>>>  > > let's compile our openssh NONE Cipher support on?
>>>  >
>>>  > Hm. After upgrade Ac to openssh-4.7p1-3 with HPN
>>>  > putty (windows ssh client) can not connect to server.
>>>  > Wrote "connection closed".
>>>  >
>>>  > Downgrade to 4.7p1-2 helps.
>>>  Yes,  I had the same problem on AC. Downgrade helped.
>>
>> Which version? 0.60 was reported to support HPN IIRC
>
> 0.59 and older.
hm..
have you any specific options in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
I tried to connect with putty 0.60, 0.59, 0.54 to server with
openssh-4.7p1-3.amd64 and haven't any problems.

Then i try to use default config (.rpmnew) - and still i haven't any
problems...

What kernel? maybe it's problem? I used on my testmachine 2.6.22.18-2

Have you tried to use  
HPNDisabled yes
or TcpRcvBufPoll no ?

-- 
Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a
Linux && Unix && Network administrator
PLD Linux Developer      HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/
JID: undefine at piastlan.net         e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name


From glen at pld-linux.org  Mon Mar 17 08:05:36 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:05:36 +0200
Subject: plplot & libnome & popt
Message-ID: <200803170905.36402.glen@pld-linux.org>

err, where's the popt coming in here? and why? and why it's not in shared lib list?

dlopen(".libs/gnome.so", 1)                                                                   = NULL
dlerror()                                                                                     = "/usr/lib/libgnome.so.32: undefined symbol: poptHelpOptions"
free(0x804f1a8)                                                                               = <void>
free(0x804f188)                                                                               = <void>
__assert_fail(0x804d77d, 0x804d733, 2449, 0x804d761, 0x804f088lt-get-drv-info: ltdl.c:2449: tryall_dlopen_module: Assertion `dirname' failed.
 <unfinished ...>
--- SIGABRT (Aborted) ---
+++ killed by SIGABRT +++

glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $ ldd /usr/lib/libgnome.so.32
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0xb7f34000)
        libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f22000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7eff000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7de5000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $ objdump -T /usr/lib/libgnome.so.32|grep poptHelpOptions
00000000      D  *UND*  00000000              poptHelpOptions
glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $




it all started from plplot build failure:
...
creating get-drv-info
./get-drv-info `echo cgm.la | sed 's/.la//'` > cgm.rc
./get-drv-info `echo dg300.la | sed 's/.la//'` > dg300.rc
./get-drv-info `echo gd.la | sed 's/.la//'` > gd.rc
./get-drv-info `echo gnome.la | sed 's/.la//'` > gnome.rc
lt-get-drv-info: ltdl.c:2449: tryall_dlopen_module: Assertion `dirname' failed.
Abort
make[2]: *** [gnome.rc] Error 134
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/glen/rpm/pld/BUILD/plplot-5.3.1/drivers'


glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $ ./get-drv-info gd
jpeg:JPEG file:0:gd:40:jpeg
png:PNG file:0:gd:39:png

glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $ ./get-drv-info gnome
lt-get-drv-info: ltdl.c:2449: tryall_dlopen_module: Assertion `dirname' failed.
Aborted
glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $


-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Mon Mar 17 16:08:15 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:08:15 +0200
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 broken on Ac?
In-Reply-To: <200803161406.07815.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <47DBB2E7.6050406@limanowa.net> <47DBFBEF.20709@limanowa.net>
	<200803161406.07815.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803171708.15264.glen@delfi.ee>

On Sunday 16 March 2008 14:06:07 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> found too something similar from one vserver root dir:

appears that such sequence of macros in rpm 4.4.9 causes the mess and TMPDIR macros containing garbage:

$ tail -n3 ~/.rpmmacros
%_tmppath  %{expand:%%global _tmppath %{lua:print(os.getenv("TMPDIR") or "/tmp")}}%{_tmppath}
%tmpdir    %{_tmppath}
%tmpdir    %{expand:%%global tmpdir %{lua:print(os.getenv("TMPDIR") or "/tmp")}}%tmpdir

not using %{lua:...} or not overwriting macros is workaround

-- 
glen


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Mon Mar 17 20:56:07 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:56:07 +0100
Subject: Package with make-request.sh?
Message-ID: <200803172056.07904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

What do you think about adding make-request.sh script to rpm-build-tools 
package or to separate package/spec make-request.spec?

-- 
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From blues at pld-linux.org  Mon Mar 17 21:33:04 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:33:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Package with make-request.sh?
In-Reply-To: <200803172056.07904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803172056.07904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803172132560.28812@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> What do you think about adding make-request.sh script to rpm-build-tools 
> package or to separate package/spec make-request.spec?

Separate spec

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From tomasz.wittner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 22:44:29 2008
From: tomasz.wittner at gmail.com (Tomasz Wittner)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:44:29 +0100
Subject: SOURCES (rpm-4_4_9): rpm-lualeak.patch - more _free() compatible,
	...
In-Reply-To: <SOURCES_rpm_lualeak.patch.1.1.2.2@pld-linux.org>
References: <SOURCES_rpm_lualeak.patch.1.1.2.1@pld-linux.org>
	<SOURCES_rpm_lualeak.patch.1.1.2.2@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803172244.29232.tomasz.wittner@gmail.com>

On Monday 17 of March 2008, 21:12, glen wrote:
> Author: glen                         Date: Mon Mar 17 20:12:18 2008 GMT
> Module: SOURCES                       Tag: rpm-4_4_9
> ---- Log message:
> - more _free() compatible, however no luck still
>
> ---- Files affected:
> SOURCES:
>    rpm-lualeak.patch (1.1.2.1 -> 1.1.2.2)
>
> ---- Diffs:
>
> ================================================================
> Index: SOURCES/rpm-lualeak.patch
> diff -u SOURCES/rpm-lualeak.patch:1.1.2.1 SOURCES/rpm-lualeak.patch:1.1.2.2
> --- SOURCES/rpm-lualeak.patch:1.1.2.1	Mon Mar 17 20:25:50 2008
> +++ SOURCES/rpm-lualeak.patch	Mon Mar 17 21:12:13 2008
> @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
>   	    lua_pushliteral(L, "LUA_PATH");
>   	    lua_pushstring(L, _lua_path);
>  -	    free(_lua_path);
> -+	    free(_lua_path); _lua_path = NULL;
> ++	    if (_lua_path) free(_lua_path); _lua_path = NULL;
>   	}
>       }
>       lua_rawset(L, LUA_GLOBALSINDEX);
> @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
>   	    if (Stat(_lua_init, &st) != -1)
>   		(void)rpmluaRunScriptFile(lua, _lua_init);
>  -	    free(_lua_init);
> -+	    free(_lua_init); _lua_init = NULL;
> ++	    if (_lua_init) free(_lua_init); _lua_init = NULL;
man 3 free
free() frees the memory space pointed to by ptr, which must have been returned 
by a previous call to malloc(), calloc() or realloc().   Otherwise, or if 
free(ptr) has already been called before, undefined behaviour occurs. 
If ptr is NULL, no operation is performed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IMO construction like `if(foo) free(foo);' has little value (maybe is useful 
for performance reasons - conditional instruction vs. calling function - I 
don't know). I didn't write any piece of C code for ages, but it seems to me 
that you would like achieve rather sth like:
if(_lua_init) { free(_lua_init); _lua_init = NULL; }


>   	}
>       }
>   #undef	_LUADOTDIR
> ================================================================
>
> ---- CVS-web:
>    
> http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SOURCES/rpm-lualeak.patch?r1=1.
>1.2.1&r2=1.1.2.2&f=u
>
> _______________________________________________
> pld-cvs-commit mailing list
> pld-cvs-commit at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-cvs-commit



-- 
Tomasz Wittner


From n3npq at mac.com  Mon Mar 17 22:57:26 2008
From: n3npq at mac.com (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:57:26 -0400
Subject: SOURCES (rpm-4_4_9): rpm-lualeak.patch - more _free() compatible,
	...
In-Reply-To: <200803172244.29232.tomasz.wittner@gmail.com>
References: <SOURCES_rpm_lualeak.patch.1.1.2.1@pld-linux.org>
	<SOURCES_rpm_lualeak.patch.1.1.2.2@pld-linux.org>
	<200803172244.29232.tomasz.wittner@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E28AB810-EAC9-43B7-A861-56C1D3C34B3D@mac.com>


On Mar 17, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Tomasz Wittner wrote:

>
> IMO construction like `if(foo) free(foo);' has little value (maybe  
> is useful
> for performance reasons - conditional instruction vs. calling  
> function - I
> don't know). I didn't write any piece of C code for ages, but it  
> seems to me
> that you would like achieve rather sth like:
> if(_lua_init) { free(_lua_init); _lua_init = NULL; }
>

Heh, Real Men use reference counted garbage collected slab memory  
memory with
a SAT solving loop breaker.

Meanwhile, you're looking at code out-of-context.

The snippet that is extracted came from rpm code that looks like
	ptr = _free(ptr);

Whether free(NULL) is permitted (or not) is hardly the issue. The
stoopid _free() wrapper immediately poisons (by setting to NULL)
the pointer that used to reference malloc'd memory, thereby preventing
any possibility of accidentally referencing already free'd memory.

Those bugs are _REALLY_ hard to find, segfault's from looking through
a NULL pointer are easy pie fixing in comparison.

73 de Jeff


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Tue Mar 18 00:37:37 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:37:37 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
Message-ID: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

http://wklej.org/id/0868358518

What I break?;) And how to fix that?

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From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar 18 08:44:14 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-15?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:44:14 +0200
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <200803180944.14908.glen@delfi.ee>

On Tuesday 18 March 2008 01:37:37 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> http://wklej.org/id/0868358518
>
> What I break?;) And how to fix that?

builders accept files only from distfiles, but first url is not available from 
df.

this could be either by the fact that it is not fetched, or something doesn't 
like filename in form 'rcdmod?x86_64' (containing question mark)
 
-- 
glen


From hawk at limanowa.net  Tue Mar 18 11:13:27 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:13:27 +0100
Subject: python-gnome-desktop unmed directory dependency
Message-ID: <47DF95C7.2030501@limanowa.net>

error: python-gnome-desktop-apidocs-2.22.0-1: req 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html not found

Should we add this directory to gtk-doc.spec (+1) or to 
python-gnome-desktop.spec?

M.

P.S. Titanium, but Th probably has the same.


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar 18 12:26:56 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:26:56 +0100
Subject: python-gnome-desktop unmed directory dependency
In-Reply-To: <47DF95C7.2030501@limanowa.net>
References: <47DF95C7.2030501@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803180426m485bc7d7ya73bafb9c6a1073c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Marcin Krol <hawk at limanowa.net> wrote:
> error: python-gnome-desktop-apidocs-2.22.0-1: req
>  /usr/share/gtk-doc/html not found
>
>  Should we add this directory to gtk-doc.spec (+1) or to
>  python-gnome-desktop.spec?

+1 for gtk-doc, I think it already creates the dir but rpm does not
warn about unpackaged empty dirs.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From hawk at limanowa.net  Tue Mar 18 14:55:26 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:55:26 +0100
Subject: python-gnome-desktop unmed directory dependency
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803180426m485bc7d7ya73bafb9c6a1073c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DF95C7.2030501@limanowa.net>
	<89b6ba3a0803180426m485bc7d7ya73bafb9c6a1073c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DFC9CE.2030000@limanowa.net>

> +1 for gtk-doc, I think it already creates the dir but rpm does not
> warn about unpackaged empty dirs.

Interesting... This directory is provided by gtk-doc-common. I wonder 
why poldek doesn't see it and reports broken dep.

M.


From megabajt at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar 18 15:23:35 2008
From: megabajt at pld-linux.org (Marcin Banasiak)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:23:35 +0100
Subject: python-gnome-desktop unmed directory dependency
In-Reply-To: <47DFC9CE.2030000@limanowa.net>
References: <47DF95C7.2030501@limanowa.net>
	<89b6ba3a0803180426m485bc7d7ya73bafb9c6a1073c@mail.gmail.com>
	<47DFC9CE.2030000@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <1205850215.3732.9.camel@localhost>

Dnia 2008-03-18, Wt o godzinie 14:55 +0100, Marcin Krol pisze:
> > +1 for gtk-doc, I think it already creates the dir but rpm does not
> > warn about unpackaged empty dirs.
> 
> Interesting... This directory is provided by gtk-doc-common. I wonder 
> why poldek doesn't see it and reports broken dep.

gtk-doc-common provides ?/usr/share/doc/gtk-doc/html,
not ?/usr/share/gtk-doc/html

But I still don't know why we put docs there and we are not using
directory suggested by other packages (?/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/foo).

Can anyone give me a pointer to some documentation where it's explained?

-- 
Marcin Banasiak


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar 18 16:19:50 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:19:50 +0200
Subject: plplot & libnome & popt
In-Reply-To: <200803170905.36402.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200803170905.36402.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803181719.50765.glen@delfi.ee>

On Monday 17 March 2008 09:05:36 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> glen at builder-ac plplot-5.3.1/drivers $ ldd /usr/lib/libgnome.so.32
> ? ? ? ? linux-gate.so.1 => ?(0xffffe000)
> ? ? ? ? libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0xb7f34000)
> ? ? ? ? libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f22000)
> ? ? ? ? libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7eff000)
> ? ? ? ? libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7de5000)
> ? ? ? ? /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)

after some rebuild:

glen at builder-ac pld/SPECS $ ldd /usr/lib/libgnome.so.32
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libesd.so.0 => /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0xb7ec4000)
        libaudiofile.so.0 => /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0xb7e9b000)
        libdb-4.5.so => /lib/libdb-4.5.so (0xb7d8d000)
        libpopt.so.0 => /lib/libpopt.so.0 (0xb7d85000)
        libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0xb7d60000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7c46000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7c22000)
        libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7b5f000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7b5b000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7b49000)

fun heh?

-- 
glen


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Tue Mar 18 21:58:53 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:58:53 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803180944.14908.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803180944.14908.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Dnia wtorek 18 marzec 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> this could be either by the fact that it is not fetched, or something
> doesn't like filename in form 'rcdmod?x86_64' (containing question mark)
Ok I know what is the problem. Builder should encode urls when fetching from 
distfiles.

Now it try to get:
ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/d/7/d712792e3216e49aec85bf5046d1e212/rcdmod?x86
This doesn't work.

But it should try to get:
ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/d/7/d712792e3216e49aec85bf5046d1e212/rcdmod%3fx86
This works.

Any reasons to not do that?

Do we have any simple script for url encoding?
-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar 18 21:16:52 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:16:52 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803180944.14908.glen@delfi.ee>
	<200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803181316g51355fd7u54a58332dfeed200@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/18 Kamil Dziedzic <kamil.listy at klecza.pl>:
> Dnia wtorek 18 marzec 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
>
> > this could be either by the fact that it is not fetched, or something
>  > doesn't like filename in form 'rcdmod?x86_64' (containing question mark)
>  Ok I know what is the problem. Builder should encode urls when fetching from
>  distfiles.
>
>  Now it try to get:
>  ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/d/7/d712792e3216e49aec85bf5046d1e212/rcdmod?x86
>  This doesn't work.
>
>  But it should try to get:
>  ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/d/7/d712792e3216e49aec85bf5046d1e212/rcdmod%3fx86
>  This works.
>
>  Any reasons to not do that?

Yes, how do you differentiate between query params and parts of
document name? It's the spec file where encoding should happen (as
currently it's not a valid URI, I believe FTP schema does not even
allow one to use query strings).

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Tue Mar 18 22:24:07 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:24:07 +0100
Subject: Package with make-request.sh?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803172132560.28812@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
References: <200803172056.07904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803172132560.28812@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
Message-ID: <200803182224.08037.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Pawel Golaszewski wrote:
> Separate spec
Really simple and ugly spec. Ugly becouse:
- I dont know what version it should have (now its revision number)
- I dont know on what license it is
- Description is not too good (copied from some docs)
- No pl description/summary
- Missing requires (R: /usr/sbin/sendmail ?)

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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# $Revision:$, $Date:$
Summary:	Tool for sending build requests
Name:		make-request
Version:	1.48
Release:	0.1
License:	GPL
Group:		Development/Tools
Source0:	http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/pld-builder.new/client/%{name}.sh?rev=%{version}
# Source0-md5:	c9f98f1ef3a5aaa1172d7d82f8d716e1
URL:		http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/pld-builder.new/client/make-request.sh
BuildArch:	noarch
BuildRoot:	%{tmpdir}/%{name}-%{version}-root-%(id -u -n)

%description
A tool which, based on the way it's configured and on the cmdline
parameters given to it, generates an xml-formated build request, which
it then signs with the requester's PGP key (using the gpg utility) and
then sends it to the source builder via a sendmail compatible command
line application (by default invoking "sendmail -t").

Two modes of operation are:
- sending requests to build chosen package(s) on a specified group of
  builders
- sending a chosen command to be executed on a specified group of
  builders

%prep

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

install -d $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir}
install %{SOURCE0} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir}/%{name}

%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

%files
%defattr(644,root,root,755)
%attr(755,root,root) %{_bindir}/%{name}

%define date    %(echo `LC_ALL="C" date +"%a %b %d %Y"`)
%changelog
* %{date} PLD Team <feedback at pld-linux.org>
All persons listed below can be reached at <cvs_login>@pld-linux.org

$Log:$
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From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Tue Mar 18 23:18:43 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:18:43 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803181316g51355fd7u54a58332dfeed200@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803181316g51355fd7u54a58332dfeed200@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803182318.43972.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Dnia wtorek 18 marzec 2008, Patryk Zawadzki napisa?:
> Yes, how do you differentiate between query params and parts of
> document name? It's the spec file where encoding should happen (as
> currently it's not a valid URI, I believe FTP schema does not even
> allow one to use query strings).
Why in spec? It is a valid URI.

I don't understand or you;) Could you give me a live example when this will 
not work?

For better undertanding I will try to explain this more verbose. Lets drop for 
now problems with rescuecd.spec (because it has more problems). Lets take for 
example dmg2img.spec.

Logs from test build: http://wklej.org/id/479c5dfff2

I'm saying that builder script is now broken. You can't pass as SourceX urls 
with special characters like for example "? &". Why not? Because when 
distfiles fetches files it makes something like that:
wget -O "download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz" 
http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz

> From logs: 19:46:11 (0.00 B/s) - `download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz' saved [0]
So it "get" file "download.pl" and saves it as "download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz" on 
ftp. Now when we want try to build a package from spec then builder script 
tries to download file from 
distfiles. He uses same method like distfiles to get file:
wget -O "download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz" 
ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/e/3/e3fa1bc5f38e961230100c1c2274bd28/download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz

> From logs: # No matches on pattern `download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz'. 
But on ftp there is no file "download.pl", there is a 
file "download.pl%3fdmg2img.tar.gz" 
ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/e/3/e3fa1bc5f38e961230100c1c2274bd28/download.pl%3fdmg2img.tar.gz

So to resolve this problem we should encode url (just 
name - "download.pl?dmg2img.tar.gz") when geting file from distfiles like in 
example above.
-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar 18 22:32:54 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:32:54 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803182318.43972.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803181316g51355fd7u54a58332dfeed200@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803182318.43972.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803181432i5c9f8257k4aa626f8d169e8b8@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/18 Kamil Dziedzic <kamil.listy at klecza.pl>:
> Dnia wtorek 18 marzec 2008, Patryk Zawadzki napisa?:
> > Yes, how do you differentiate between query params and parts of
>  > document name? It's the spec file where encoding should happen (as
>  > currently it's not a valid URI, I believe FTP schema does not even
>  > allow one to use query strings).
>  Why in spec? It is a valid URI.

It's not a valid URI to put in spec. Not if you want to be able to
freely switch between different URI schemas (http:// vs. ftp:// is a
good enough example).

In http schema the "?" character serves the purpose of separating a
document name from a query string. Therefore the question mark is not
part of the document requested, it's there to pass additional
parameters to the http server. It should also not be saved as part of
the file name. The file name should be derived from either response
headers (for example "Disposition" headers allows one to set the
desired file name) or the server's document name (the part between the
last "/" and "?"). wget behaves differently and saves the question
mark as part of the file name which is required for wget's teleport
mode to work (where you request a full website mirror locally).

Even if you asked wget to behave like a usual web browser (and thus
have the correct file name on distfiles), the builder script still has
no idea what name to search for (as the web server is free to pass any
file name in the response headers).

If you want to fix anything, I'd suggest fixing the spec by using an
unambiguous URI.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From blues at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 00:00:43 2008
From: blues at pld-linux.org (Pawel Golaszewski)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:00:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Package with make-request.sh?
In-Reply-To: <200803182224.08037.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803172056.07904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803172132560.28812@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
	<200803182224.08037.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803182358590.13673@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> > Separate spec
> Really simple and ugly spec. Ugly becouse:
> - I dont know what version it should have (now its revision number)

It's fine.
revision in cvs is for that purpose.

> - I dont know on what license it is

Every spec is GPL. We can assume it's too (there was something about that 
in PLD-docs.

> - Missing requires (R: /usr/sbin/sendmail ?)

Can be easy filled.

-- 
pozdr.  Pawe? Go?aszewski          jid:blues<at>jabber<dot>gda<dot>pl
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby
Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.

From radek at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 11:22:57 2008
From: radek at pld-linux.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Rados=C5=82aw_Zieli=C5=84ski?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:22:57 +0000
Subject: SPECS: postgresql.spec - updated pg_ctl-fix patch is back
	(neede...
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_postgresql.spec.1.400@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_postgresql.spec.1.399@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_postgresql.spec.1.400@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <a8dae1ea0803190322x7c74ef23o67411e3377196e1e@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/02/2008, qboosh <qboosh at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> Author: qboosh                       Date: Tue Feb 19 20:51:56 2008 GMT
>  Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
>  ---- Log message:
>  - updated pg_ctl-fix patch is back
>   (needed to successfully start postgresql with non-default unix socket path)

FYI: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-09/msg00760.php

(Yes, their reasons are utterly pointless and originate from "works on
my RH", but meh.)

-- 
Rados?aw Zieli?ski <radek at pld-linux.org>

From glen at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 11:34:25 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:34:25 +0200
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803180944.14908.glen@delfi.ee>
	<200803182158.58859.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <200803191234.25542.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Tuesday 18 March 2008 22:58:53 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> Dnia wtorek 18 marzec 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> > this could be either by the fact that it is not fetched, or something
> > doesn't like filename in form 'rcdmod?x86_64' (containing question mark)
>
> Ok I know what is the problem. Builder should encode urls when fetching
> from distfiles.
>
> Now it try to get:
> ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/d/7/d712792e3216e49aec85bf50
>46d1e212/rcdmod?x86 This doesn't work.
>
> But it should try to get:
> ftp://distfiles.pld-linux.org/distfiles/by-md5/d/7/d712792e3216e49aec85bf50
>46d1e212/rcdmod%3fx86 This works.
>
> Any reasons to not do that?
>
> Do we have any simple script for url encoding?

this all depends how you fetch the file, via squid proxy both urls work, and 
the file is saved as 'rcdmod?x86' on distfiles. and all the other things 
apply that patrys said.

sometimes you can workaround and append /filename in url:

/rcdmod?x86/x86
or even:
/rcdmod?x86&foo=/x86
depending on web application giving you that url

and always possible to upload file with custom name to distfiles and use nourl 
sources in such cases.

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Mar 19 15:15:47 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:15:47 +0200
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <200803130118.17506.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.7@pld-linux.org>
	<200803130118.17506.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>

On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:18:17 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:05, patrys wrote:
> > -Requires:??????shadow
> > +Requires:??????pwdutils
>
> isn't the "shadow" virtual that pwdutils provides?

hello?

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 16:58:24 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:58:24 +0100
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.7@pld-linux.org>
	<200803130118.17506.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:18:17 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>  > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:05, patrys wrote:
>  > > -Requires:      shadow
>  > > +Requires:      pwdutils
>  >
>  > isn't the "shadow" virtual that pwdutils provides?
>  hello?

In th pwdutils is the only package that provides shadow. It's also the
only package that supports our group/user adding macros.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Mar 19 17:52:40 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:52:40 +0200
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:58:24 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:18:17 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> >  > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:05, patrys wrote:
> >  > > -Requires:      shadow
> >  > > +Requires:      pwdutils
> >  >
> >  > isn't the "shadow" virtual that pwdutils provides?
> >
> >  hello?
>
> In th pwdutils is the only package that provides shadow. It's also the
> only package that supports our group/user adding macros.

argh, yeah th forever! (i don't care of anything)

but XFree86 virtual deps were (are) used long time even AC used X11! so will 
this be virtual or not (shadow)?

-- 
glen


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 17:56:39 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:56:39 +0100
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:58:24 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>  > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
>  > > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:18:17 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>  > >  > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:05, patrys wrote:
>  > >  > > -Requires:      shadow
>  > >  > > +Requires:      pwdutils
>  > >  >
>  > >  > isn't the "shadow" virtual that pwdutils provides?
>  > >
>  > >  hello?
>  >
>  > In th pwdutils is the only package that provides shadow. It's also the
>  > only package that supports our group/user adding macros.
>
>  argh, yeah th forever! (i don't care of anything)
>
>  but XFree86 virtual deps were (are) used long time even AC used X11! so will
>  this be virtual or not (shadow)?

You can change this to shadow but be aware that the shadow's useradd
can't handle the params %adduser macro passes so it will only work
with pwdutils even if you stick with Ac (unless Ac has different build
macros or unless the macros were adapted to support shadow utils).

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 18:36:17 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:36:17 +0100
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080319173616.GA20099@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 05:56:39PM +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:58:24 Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >  > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Elan Ruusam?e <glen at delfi.ee> wrote:
> >  > > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:18:17 Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> >  > >  > On Thursday 13 March 2008 01:05, patrys wrote:
> >  > >  > > -Requires:      shadow
> >  > >  > > +Requires:      pwdutils
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > isn't the "shadow" virtual that pwdutils provides?
> >  > >
> >  > >  hello?
> >  >
> >  > In th pwdutils is the only package that provides shadow. It's also the
> >  > only package that supports our group/user adding macros.
> >
> >  argh, yeah th forever! (i don't care of anything)
> >
> >  but XFree86 virtual deps were (are) used long time even AC used X11! so will
> >  this be virtual or not (shadow)?
> 
> You can change this to shadow but be aware that the shadow's useradd
> can't handle the params %adduser macro passes

Which one?

> so it will only work
> with pwdutils even if you stick with Ac (unless Ac has different build
> macros or unless the macros were adapted to support shadow utils).


Generally, I'd be for using metapackage name - but with name other than
any real package (including "shadow" or "pwdutils").
E.g. passwd-utils or shadow-utils.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Mar 19 19:53:30 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:53:30 +0200
Subject: syslog-ng-2.0.7-1.i686 reload (th)
Message-ID: <200803192053.36418.glen@delfi.ee>

SYSLOG-NG(8) :


       The  configuration  file  is  read  at startup and is reread after receipt of a hangup (HUP) signal.  When
       reloading the configuration file, all destination files are closed and reopened as appropriate.  For  more
       information about the configuration file, see syslog-ng.conf(5).

however:


20:52:33 root[pts/4]@ravenous /etc# lsof -c syslog-ng|grep /var/log
syslog-ng 2865 root    6w   REG        3,2 1182406     394881 /var/log/archive/messages-20080310 (deleted)

20:53:02 root[pts/4]@ravenous /etc# kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslog-ng.pid `
20:53:03 root[pts/4]@ravenous /etc# lsof -c syslog-ng|grep /var/log
syslog-ng 2865 root    6w   REG        3,2 1182620     394881 /var/log/archive/messages-20080310 (deleted)

i have always hated when logrotate process makes syslogging to deleted files ;(

-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Mar 19 20:07:15 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:07:15 +0200
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 weird upgrade sequence
Message-ID: <200803192107.15433.glen@delfi.ee>

err, 

never seen this before (altho haven't used rpm 4.4.9 for long either)

i ran poldek --upgrade-dist which downloaded bunch of kde packages and told 
rpm(1) to upgrade them

usually this means that packages are upgraded and %post parts ran after 
upgrade is done. but what i encountered was that rpm erased old packages and 
installed new ones, which means %config files were saved as .rpmsave, 
services stopped and when the install part appeared .rpmnew files were 
created and no services started.

here's upgrade log i managed to capture (as luckily i ran upgrade in 
screen(1))

-- 
glen
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From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Mar 19 20:14:26 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-15?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:14:26 +0200
Subject: rpm 4.4.9 weird upgrade sequence
In-Reply-To: <200803192107.15433.glen@delfi.ee>
References: <200803192107.15433.glen@delfi.ee>
Message-ID: <200803192114.26326.glen@delfi.ee>

On Wednesday 19 March 2008 21:07, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> here's upgrade log i managed to capture (as luckily i ran upgrade in
> screen(1))

few explanations:

[1] konqueror and kdm packages were uninstalled:
warning: /etc/browser-plugins/blacklist.d/konqueror.x86_64.blacklist saved 
as /etc/browser-plugins/blacklist.d/konqueror.x86_64.blacklist.rpmsave



Success: removed "daemon/kdm" from the runlevel(s): default
 initNGControl (0.6.7 ) by Jimmy Wennlund http://www.initng.org/


Command POSITIVE.


 * Stopping KDE Display Manager service............................[ BUSY ]Mar 
19 20:54:46 haarber kdm(pam_unix)[2973]: session closed for user glen
                                                                   [ DONE ]


[2] konqueror package was installed
warning: /etc/browser-plugins/blacklist.d/konqueror.x86_64.blacklist created 
as /etc/browser-plugins/blacklist.d/konqueror.x86_64.blacklist.rpmnew
########################################### [ 56%]
Installing npwrapper.libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib64/kde3/plugins/konqueror

[3] kdm package was installed
Run "/sbin/service kdm start" to start kdm.



Success: added "daemon/kdm" to runlevel "default"

[4] command that poldek invokes is:
Executing rpm --upgrade -vh --root / --noorder RPMFILES


-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Wed Mar 19 20:34:49 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:34:49 +0200
Subject: kdesvn and kde
Message-ID: <200803192134.49096.glen@delfi.ee>

Executing rpm --upgrade -vh --root / --noorder...
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
        file /usr/share/services/svn+file.protocol from install of kde-kio-svn-3.5.9-1.amd64 conflicts with file from package kdesvn-0.14.1-3.amd64
        file /usr/share/services/svn+http.protocol from install of kde-kio-svn-3.5.9-1.amd64 conflicts with file from package kdesvn-0.14.1-3.amd64
        file /usr/share/services/svn+https.protocol from install of kde-kio-svn-3.5.9-1.amd64 conflicts with file from package kdesvn-0.14.1-3.amd64
        file /usr/share/services/svn+ssh.protocol from install of kde-kio-svn-3.5.9-1.amd64 conflicts with file from package kdesvn-0.14.1-3.amd64
        file /usr/share/services/svn.protocol from install of kde-kio-svn-3.5.9-1.amd64 conflicts with file from package kdesvn-0.14.1-3.amd64

whose pkg files to use?

drop from kdesdk or kdesvn (and make one use another)

... or just don't install kde-kio-svn?

-- 
glen


From radek at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 19 23:19:15 2008
From: radek at pld-linux.org (Radoslaw Zielinski)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:19:15 +0000
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <20080319173616.GA20099@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080319173616.GA20099@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <20080319221915.GA6965@bzium>

Jakub Bogusz <qboosh at pld-linux.org> [19-03-2008 17:36]:
[...]
> Generally, I'd be for using metapackage name - but with name other than
> any real package (including "shadow" or "pwdutils").
> E.g. passwd-utils or shadow-utils.

"Use parenthesis for all virtual names" would be a decent policy.
whatever(utils) in this case.

-- 
Rados?aw Zieli?ski <radek at pld-linux.org>
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Thu Mar 20 00:53:11 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:53:11 +0100
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <20080319221915.GA6965@bzium>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080319173616.GA20099@stranger.qboosh.pl>
	<20080319221915.GA6965@bzium>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803191653q590e0b0ar75dba7269b97580@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/19 Radoslaw Zielinski <radek at pld-linux.org>:
> Jakub Bogusz <qboosh at pld-linux.org> [19-03-2008 17:36]:
>  [...]
>
> > Generally, I'd be for using metapackage name - but with name other than
>  > any real package (including "shadow" or "pwdutils").
>  > E.g. passwd-utils or shadow-utils.
>
>  "Use parenthesis for all virtual names" would be a decent policy.
>  whatever(utils) in this case.

How does that solve the problem of finding a name for whatever? Unless
you propose we use Provides: virtual(shadow)

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Thu Mar 20 01:15:28 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:15:28 +0100
Subject: SysVinit vs. upstart
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803191715l6a64e0a5oaaa59eb55be5b57b@mail.gmail.com>

For anyone interested:

I've just commited a SysVinit replacement for PLD using the Ubuntu's
wonderful upstart. For now all it does is behave exactly like our
SysVinit however it's much more powerful than traditional init. If at
any point we decide to migrate (migration from SysV is seamless as you
can replace rc.d scripts with upstart events one by one) we get
parallel start and service dependencies for free.

Needed packages are:

- upstart-SysVinit - provides traditional SysV binaries that our rc-scripts use
- upstart - provides replacement for init, event-based launch
mechanism and replacements for system maintenance commands like halt,
reboot and telinit

Installing upstart-SysVinit will replace your SysVinit package and
should result in exact behavior.

upstart is stable and used by Ubuntu and OpenSuSE users. Fedora also
ships upstart (but I think not yet installed by default).

More info: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From arekm at maven.pl  Thu Mar 20 08:19:54 2008
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:19:54 +0100
Subject: SPECS (AC-branch): exim.spec - kill trigger (whatever the
	rational...
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_exim.spec.1.261.2.23@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_exim.spec.1.261.2.22@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_exim.spec.1.261.2.23@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803200819.54431.arekm@maven.pl>

On Wednesday 19 of March 2008, glen wrote:
> Author: glen                         Date: Wed Mar 19 22:22:45 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: AC-branch
> ---- Log message:
> - kill trigger (whatever the rationale is (look bug #120), seems using jbj
> rpm was mistake); rel 2

Yeah :-(

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Sat Mar 22 10:57:57 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?utf-8?q?B=C5=82aszkowski?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:57:57 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
Message-ID: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>


[EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on 
ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD 
nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.

[PL]: Chcia?bym aby domena s?u?y?a do cel?w PLD. Mog? zaparkowa? j? na 
ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org lub u?yczy? obecnych DNS i podporz?dkowa? je jako 
zapasowe lub po otrzymaniu strefy DNS ustawi? obecne DNS na mod?? PLDow?.

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski


From glen at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 22 14:23:48 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:23:48 +0200
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
Message-ID: <200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Saturday 22 March 2008 11:57:57 Wojciech B?aszkowski wrote:
> [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD
> nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.

i like that the domain does not relate to any specific country.

-- 
glen


From radek at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 22 16:46:07 2008
From: radek at pld-linux.org (Radoslaw Zielinski)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:46:07 +0000
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803191653q590e0b0ar75dba7269b97580@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080319173616.GA20099@stranger.qboosh.pl>
	<20080319221915.GA6965@bzium>
	<89b6ba3a0803191653q590e0b0ar75dba7269b97580@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080322154607.GA6565@bzium>

Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org> [19-03-2008 23:53]:
> 2008/3/19 Radoslaw Zielinski <radek at pld-linux.org>:
[...]
>> "Use parenthesis for all virtual names" would be a decent policy.
>> whatever(utils) in this case.
> How does that solve the problem of finding a name for whatever?
> Unless you propose we use Provides: virtual(shadow)

Something like that, yes.

-- 
Rados?aw Zieli?ski <radek at pld-linux.org>
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 22 16:50:42 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:50:42 +0100
Subject: SPECS: sabayon.spec - 2.22.0 - actually works
In-Reply-To: <20080322154607.GA6565@bzium>
References: <SPECS_sabayon.spec.1.6@pld-linux.org>
	<200803191615.47983.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190858y3449b8gecc886a4a606528@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803191852.40147.glen@delfi.ee>
	<89b6ba3a0803190956x55cf8bcaia818df8c8134b7d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080319173616.GA20099@stranger.qboosh.pl>
	<20080319221915.GA6965@bzium>
	<89b6ba3a0803191653q590e0b0ar75dba7269b97580@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080322154607.GA6565@bzium>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803220850o64a851ev2a332da9aac6f759@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/22 Radoslaw Zielinski <radek at pld-linux.org>:
> Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org> [19-03-2008 23:53]:
> > 2008/3/19 Radoslaw Zielinski <radek at pld-linux.org>:
>  [...]
>
> >> "Use parenthesis for all virtual names" would be a decent policy.
>  >> whatever(utils) in this case.
>  > How does that solve the problem of finding a name for whatever?
>  > Unless you propose we use Provides: virtual(shadow)
>  Something like that, yes.

Go ahead, +1

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From deejay1 at srem.org  Sat Mar 22 17:00:33 2008
From: deejay1 at srem.org (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Jerna=C5=9B?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:00:33 +0100
Subject: SysVinit vs. upstart
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803191715l6a64e0a5oaaa59eb55be5b57b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0803191715l6a64e0a5oaaa59eb55be5b57b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1206201633.4797.2.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>

Dnia 2008-03-20, Cz o godzinie 01:15 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki pisze:
> Installing upstart-SysVinit will replace your SysVinit package and
> should result in exact behavior.

Sadly it doesn't - I'm unable to close my laptop now - it keeps
restarting init everytime our scripts try to kill it ;)

-- 
?ukasz [DeeJay1] Jerna?



From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 22 17:02:28 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:02:28 +0100
Subject: SysVinit vs. upstart
In-Reply-To: <1206201633.4797.2.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>
References: <89b6ba3a0803191715l6a64e0a5oaaa59eb55be5b57b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206201633.4797.2.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803220902r2438a749g7f4353ffb07ee82d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:00 PM, ?ukasz Jerna? <deejay1 at srem.org> wrote:
> Dnia 2008-03-20, Cz o godzinie 01:15 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki pisze:
> > Installing upstart-SysVinit will replace your SysVinit package and
>  > should result in exact behavior.
>  Sadly it doesn't - I'm unable to close my laptop now - it keeps
>  restarting init everytime our scripts try to kill it ;)

Uhm, our scripts for rc6 end in rc.shutdown which turns the machine off.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From radek at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 22 18:33:17 2008
From: radek at pld-linux.org (Radoslaw Zielinski)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:17 +0000
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
Message-ID: <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>

Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [22-03-2008 09:57]:
> [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on 
> ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD 
> nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.

The point being?

-- 
Rados?aw Zieli?ski <radek at pld-linux.org>
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From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Sun Mar 23 02:15:30 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?utf-8?q?B=C5=82aszkowski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:15:30 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
Message-ID: <200803230215.30479@wojtosz>

Dnia sobota 22 marzec 2008, Radoslaw Zielinski napisa?:
> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [22-03-2008 09:57]:
> > [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> > ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD
> > nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
>
> The point being?

already discussed with domelu on #pld :)
nameservers set to ns0.pld-linux.org, ep09.pld-linux.org.

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski


From wrobell at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 23 04:31:51 2008
From: wrobell at pld-linux.org (wrobell)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:31:51 +0000
Subject: rpm --root problem
Message-ID: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg>

i am trying to install some packages in chroot using rpm

    # rpm --root /home/new-sys -qa
    gpg-pubkey-e64e7bf7-47b35206.(none)

    # rpm  --root /home/new-sys -i  --ignorearch --ignoreos  rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm
    warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
    warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm was skipped

    # rpm --root /home/new-sys -qa
    gpg-pubkey-e64e7bf7-47b35206.(none)

as you can see above, installation of a package was not performed.
rpm reported no error.

i am trying to install i686 arch rpms on ppc box, thus the ignore{arch,os}
options.

any hints?

regards,

    wrobell <wrobell at pld-linux.org>


From undefine at aramin.net  Sun Mar 23 09:42:32 2008
From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:42:32 +0100
Subject: rpm --root problem
In-Reply-To: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg>
References: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg>
Message-ID: <20080323084232.GA25708@aramin.net>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 03:31:51AM +0000, wrobell wrote:
> i am trying to install some packages in chroot using rpm
> 
>     # rpm --root /home/new-sys -qa
>     gpg-pubkey-e64e7bf7-47b35206.(none)
> 
>     # rpm  --root /home/new-sys -i  --ignorearch --ignoreos  rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm
>     warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
>     warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm was skipped
rpm -vv ... ?

-- 
Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a
Linux && Unix && Network administrator
PLD Linux Developer      HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/
JID: undefine at piastlan.net         e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name


From wrobell at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 23 11:55:30 2008
From: wrobell at pld-linux.org (wrobell)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:55:30 +0000
Subject: rpm --root problem
In-Reply-To: <20080323084232.GA25708@aramin.net>
References: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg> <20080323084232.GA25708@aramin.net>
Message-ID: <20080323105530.GB5427@borg>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 09:42:32AM +0100, Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 03:31:51AM +0000, wrobell wrote:
> > i am trying to install some packages in chroot using rpm
> > 
> >     # rpm --root /home/new-sys -qa
> >     gpg-pubkey-e64e7bf7-47b35206.(none)
> > 
> >     # rpm  --root /home/new-sys -i  --ignorearch --ignoreos  rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm
> >     warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
> >     warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm was skipped
> rpm -vv ... ?

# rpm -vv --root /home/new-sys -i  --ignorearch --ignoreos  rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
D: ============== rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
D: Expected size:       188060 = lead(96)+sigs(344)+pad(0)+data(187620)
D:   Actual size:       188060
D: opening  db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages cdb:mpool
D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages rdonly mode=0x0
D: locked   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly mode=0x0
warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm was skipped
D: found 0 source and 0 binary packages
D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
D: closed   db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages


just to make things clear. i am installing i486/i686 packages in chroot on
ppc box.

let's skip ignorearch/ignoreos rpm parameters:

# rpm -vv --root /home/new-sys -i   rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm             
D: ============== rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
D: Expected size:       188060 = lead(96)+sigs(344)+pad(0)+data(187620)
D:   Actual size:       188060
D: opening  db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages cdb:mpool
D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages rdonly mode=0x0
D: locked   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly mode=0x0
warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm was skipped
D: found 0 source and 0 binary packages
D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
D: closed   db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages

i would expect 'incorrect architecture' rpm error.

it seems that, when using --root option, rpm misbehaves completely. bad
kid! ;)

regards,

    wrobell <wrobell at pld-linux.org>


From glen at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 23 11:30:22 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?utf-8?q?Ruusam=C3=A4e?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:30:22 +0200
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
Message-ID: <200803231230.23300.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Saturday 22 March 2008 19:33:17 Radoslaw Zielinski wrote:
> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [22-03-2008 09:57]:
> > [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> > ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD
> > nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
>
> The point being?

what does sentence "I would like to that domain name serves PLD." mean. it 
doesn't mean anything sensible in English.

-- 
glen


From n3npq at mac.com  Sun Mar 23 12:08:54 2008
From: n3npq at mac.com (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:08:54 -0400
Subject: rpm --root problem
In-Reply-To: <20080323105530.GB5427@borg>
References: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg> <20080323084232.GA25708@aramin.net>
	<20080323105530.GB5427@borg>
Message-ID: <0185D8C9-4C93-4863-95A1-0F352E1053A8@mac.com>


On Mar 23, 2008, at 6:55 AM, wrobell wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 09:42:32AM +0100, Andrzej 'The Undefined'  
> Dopiera?a wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 03:31:51AM +0000, wrobell wrote:
>>> i am trying to install some packages in chroot using rpm
>>>
>>>     # rpm --root /home/new-sys -qa
>>>     gpg-pubkey-e64e7bf7-47b35206.(none)
>>>
>>>     # rpm  --root /home/new-sys -i  --ignorearch --ignoreos  rpms/ 
>>> setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm
>>>     warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm: Header V3 DSA  
>>> signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
>>>     warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i686.rpm was skipped
>> rpm -vv ... ?
>
> # rpm -vv --root /home/new-sys -i  --ignorearch --ignoreos  rpms/ 
> setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
> D: ============== rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
> D: Expected size:       188060 = lead(96)+sigs(344)+pad(0)+data 
> (187620)
> D:   Actual size:       188060
> D: opening  db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages  
> cdb:mpool
> D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages  
> rdonly mode=0x0
> D: locked   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
> D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly  
> mode=0x0
> warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature:  
> NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
> warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm was skipped
> D: found 0 source and 0 binary packages
> D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
> D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
> D: closed   db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
>
>
> just to make things clear. i am installing i486/i686 packages in  
> chroot on
> ppc box.
>
> let's skip ignorearch/ignoreos rpm parameters:
>
> # rpm -vv --root /home/new-sys -i   rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
> D: ============== rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
> D: Expected size:       188060 = lead(96)+sigs(344)+pad(0)+data 
> (187620)
> D:   Actual size:       188060
> D: opening  db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages  
> cdb:mpool
> D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages  
> rdonly mode=0x0
> D: locked   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
> D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly  
> mode=0x0
> warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature:  
> NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
> warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm was skipped
> D: found 0 source and 0 binary packages
> D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
> D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
> D: closed   db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
>
> i would expect 'incorrect architecture' rpm error.
>
> it seems that, when using --root option, rpm misbehaves completely.  
> bad
> kid! ;)
>
> regards,
>
>     wrobell <wrobell at pld-linux.org>
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en



From n3npq at mac.com  Sun Mar 23 12:16:20 2008
From: n3npq at mac.com (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:16:20 -0400
Subject: rpm --root problem
In-Reply-To: <20080323105530.GB5427@borg>
References: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg> <20080323084232.GA25708@aramin.net>
	<20080323105530.GB5427@borg>
Message-ID: <6863EF86-3916-4875-9479-98552CD5E073@mac.com>

Apologies for the previous empty reply ...

On Mar 23, 2008, at 6:55 AM, wrobell wrote:
>
> let's skip ignorearch/ignoreos rpm parameters:
>
> # rpm -vv --root /home/new-sys -i   rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
> D: ============== rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm
> D: Expected size:       188060 = lead(96)+sigs(344)+pad(0)+data 
> (187620)
> D:   Actual size:       188060
> D: opening  db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages  
> cdb:mpool
> D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages  
> rdonly mode=0x0
> D: locked   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
> D: opening  db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly  
> mode=0x0
> warning: rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature:  
> NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
> warning: package file rpms/setup-2.4.11-2.i486.rpm was skipped
> D: found 0 source and 0 binary packages
> D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
> D: closed   db index       /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
> D: closed   db environment /home/new-sys/var/lib/rpm/Packages
>
> i would expect 'incorrect architecture' rpm error.
>

You can expect anything of rpm you wish, everyone does!

> it seems that, when using --root option, rpm misbehaves completely.  
> bad
> kid! ;)
>

You have any number of ways to install ppc *.rpm packages on i386, in  
chroot's,
with qemu, in VMWare instances and more.

Try rpm2cpio for starters.

Or add regex's to /etc/rpm/platform to configure arch compatibility.  
Never mind
that ppc binaries will never execute on ix86, and so installing  
without disabling scriptlets
and triggers will instantly segfault.

But if segfault's are your idea of "compatiblity", by all means,  
configure /etc/rpm/platform
regex patterns to make ppc packages compatible with ix86.

73 de Jeff


From wrobell at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 23 13:31:38 2008
From: wrobell at pld-linux.org (wrobell)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:31:38 +0000
Subject: rpm --root problem
In-Reply-To: <6863EF86-3916-4875-9479-98552CD5E073@mac.com>
References: <20080323033151.GA5427@borg> <20080323084232.GA25708@aramin.net>
	<20080323105530.GB5427@borg>
	<6863EF86-3916-4875-9479-98552CD5E073@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20080323123138.GC5427@borg>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 07:16:20AM -0400, Jeff Johnson wrote:
[...]
> > i would expect 'incorrect architecture' rpm error.
> >
> 
> You can expect anything of rpm you wish, everyone does!

:))) well... it is hard to live without rpm :)))

> > it seems that, when using --root option, rpm misbehaves completely.  
> > bad
> > kid! ;)
> >
> 
> You have any number of ways to install ppc *.rpm packages on i386, in  
> chroot's,
> with qemu, in VMWare instances and more.
> 
> Try rpm2cpio for starters.

> Or add regex's to /etc/rpm/platform to configure arch compatibility.  
> Never mind
> that ppc binaries will never execute on ix86, and so installing  
> without disabling scriptlets
> and triggers will instantly segfault.

right! i did not think about it :)

> But if segfault's are your idea of "compatiblity", by all means,  
> configure /etc/rpm/platform
> regex patterns to make ppc packages compatible with ix86.

thanks for suggestions. indeed, rpm2cpio seems to be the best option, now.

regards,

    wrobell <wrobell at pld-linux.org>


From radek at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 23 15:09:53 2008
From: radek at pld-linux.org (Radoslaw Zielinski)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:09:53 +0000
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803230215.30479@wojtosz>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
	<200803230215.30479@wojtosz>
Message-ID: <20080323140952.GA4751@bzium>

Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [23-03-2008 01:15]:
> Dnia sobota 22 marzec 2008, Radoslaw Zielinski napisa?:
>> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [22-03-2008 09:57]:
>>> [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
>>> ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD
>>> nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
>> The point being?
> already discussed with domelu on #pld :)
> nameservers set to ns0.pld-linux.org, ep09.pld-linux.org.

But you have not discussed it with everyone else on pld-discuss.
Discussions with domelu on #pld does not a general consensus make.

Decisions on domain names affect the identity of the project, therefore
should not be taken lightly.  Not to mention that we had issues with
control over both pld.org.pl (major mess) and pld-linux.org (minor one)
previously.

-- 
Rados?aw Zieli?ski <radek at pld-linux.org>
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From adamg at agmk.net  Sun Mar 23 16:02:29 2008
From: adamg at agmk.net (Adam Golebiowski)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:02:29 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
Message-ID: <200803231602.29898.adamg@agmk.net>

On Sunday 23 March 2008, Radoslaw Zielinski wrote:
> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [23-03-2008 01:15]:
> > Dnia sobota 22 marzec 2008, Radoslaw Zielinski napisa?:
> >> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [22-03-2008 09:57]:
> >>> [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> >>> ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for
> >>> PLD nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
> >>
> >> The point being?
> >
> > already discussed with domelu on #pld :)
> > nameservers set to ns0.pld-linux.org, ep09.pld-linux.org.
>
> But you have not discussed it with everyone else on pld-discuss.
> Discussions with domelu on #pld does not a general consensus make.
>
> Decisions on domain names affect the identity of the project, therefore
> should not be taken lightly.  Not to mention that we had issues with
> control over both pld.org.pl (major mess) and pld-linux.org (minor one)
> previously.

Oh come on, he wanted to something good for the project, don't blame hin.
He asked us if we had any plans concerning that domain - we didn't, so domelu 
suggested to set it up to be a mirror of pld-linux.org.

And it's not the case we had with pld.org.pl / pld-linux.org before. These 
were our primary domains, pld-linux.pl in no way is going to replace the 
latter in the foreseeable future. 

-- 
http://www.agmk.net/ - hosting, strony www, opieka informatyczna


From gotar at polanet.pl  Sun Mar 23 17:41:20 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:41:20 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
	<200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080323164120.GA9243@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 15:23:48 +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> i like that the domain does not relate to any specific country.

Others like having more domains (like google.pl and their problems with
gmail.pl).

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From gotar at polanet.pl  Sun Mar 23 17:44:12 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:44:12 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <20080323140952.GA4751@bzium>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
	<200803230215.30479@wojtosz> <20080323140952.GA4751@bzium>
Message-ID: <20080323164412.GB9243@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 14:09:53 +0000, Radoslaw Zielinski wrote:

> Decisions on domain names affect the identity of the project, therefore

Only in case of primary domain.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From gotar at polanet.pl  Sun Mar 23 17:46:18 2008
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:46:18 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803231230.23300.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <20080322173317.GA26923@bzium>
	<200803231230.23300.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080323164618.GC9243@pepin.polanet.pl>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:30:22 +0200, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:

> what does sentence "I would like to that domain name serves PLD." mean. it 
> doesn't mean anything sensible in English.

He would like that domain name to serve PLD.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Sun Mar 23 19:40:29 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?utf-8?q?B=C5=82aszkowski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:40:29 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
	<200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803231940.29650@wojtosz>

Dnia sobota 22 marzec 2008, Elan Ruusam?e napisa?:
> > [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> > ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD
> > nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
>
> i like that the domain does not relate to any specific country.

My point inregistering that domain was only to protect "pldlinux" mark. I hope 
that's not a bad idea.

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski


From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Sun Mar 23 20:00:54 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?iso-8859-2?q?B=B3aszkowski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:00:54 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <20080323164120.GA9243@pepin.polanet.pl>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
	<200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<20080323164120.GA9243@pepin.polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <200803232000.54834@wojtosz>

Dnia niedziela 23 marzec 2008, Tomasz Pala napisa?:
> > i like that the domain does not relate to any specific country.
>
> Others like having more domains (like google.pl and their problems with
> gmail.pl).

I'm glad that somebody can understand the mark protection matter :)

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski


From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Sun Mar 23 20:03:00 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?utf-8?q?B=C5=82aszkowski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:03:00 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <20080323140952.GA4751@bzium>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <200803230215.30479@wojtosz>
	<20080323140952.GA4751@bzium>
Message-ID: <200803232003.00663@wojtosz>

Dnia niedziela 23 marzec 2008, Radoslaw Zielinski napisa?:
> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [23-03-2008 01:15]:
> > Dnia sobota 22 marzec 2008, Radoslaw Zielinski napisa?:
> >> Wojciech B?aszkowski <wojciech at blaszkowski.com> [22-03-2008 09:57]:
> >>> [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> >>> ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for
> >>> PLD nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
> >>
> >> The point being?
> >
> > already discussed with domelu on #pld :)
> > nameservers set to ns0.pld-linux.org, ep09.pld-linux.org.
>
> But you have not discussed it with everyone else on pld-discuss.
> Discussions with domelu on #pld does not a general consensus make.

OK, and that's why i sent email to groups :) Present solution 
(ns0.pld-linux.org, ep09.pld-linux.org) is temporary - I think.

If you (authorised person) wish, I can update nameservers to same as 
pld-linux.org is.

Suggestions ?

> Decisions on domain names affect the identity of the project, therefore
> should not be taken lightly. ?Not to mention that we had issues with
> control over both pld.org.pl (major mess) and pld-linux.org (minor one)
> previously.

pldlinux.pl is only to protect PLD Linux mark.

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski


From undefine at aramin.net  Sun Mar 23 20:41:52 2008
From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:41:52 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803231940.29650@wojtosz>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz>
	<200803221523.49789.glen@pld-linux.org>
	<200803231940.29650@wojtosz>
Message-ID: <20080323194152.GA14736@aramin.net>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 07:40:29PM +0100, Wojciech B?aszkowski wrote:
> > > [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> > > ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for PLD
> > > nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
> >
> > i like that the domain does not relate to any specific country.
> 
> My point inregistering that domain was only to protect "pldlinux" mark. I hope 
> that's not a bad idea.
Ee.. but it doesn't make sense (for me).
Thinking that way we need register (or if it's already registered - try
to buy it) -
{pld-linux,pldlinux,pld,linux-pld,peelde}.{com,net,org,}{ru,eu,org,net,tv,uk,us,}
etc...

More domains - more problems when "owner" has problems with self and
some day start hating pld (like pld.pl domain ;), more problems with
hosting it, more problems with paying for it... and we can't register
everything.

For me 2 domains - pld-linux.org and pld.org.pl (historical purposes) -
is enough. Any any other shouldn't be hosted together with pld's
"official" domains.

-- 
Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a
Linux && Unix && Network administrator
PLD Linux Developer      HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/
JID: undefine at piastlan.net         e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name


From wojciech at blaszkowski.com  Sun Mar 23 21:58:22 2008
From: wojciech at blaszkowski.com (Wojciech =?iso-8859-2?q?B=B3aszkowski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:58:22 +0100
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <20080323194152.GA14736@aramin.net>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <200803231940.29650@wojtosz>
	<20080323194152.GA14736@aramin.net>
Message-ID: <200803232158.22636@wojtosz>

Witam,
> > > > [EN]: I would like to that domain name serves PLD. I can set it on
> > > > ns{1,2,3}.pld-linux.org or use present DNS and set them as slaves for
> > > > PLD nameservers or set on present DNS proper PLD zone.
> > >
> > > i like that the domain does not relate to any specific country.
> >
> > My point inregistering that domain was only to protect "pldlinux" mark. I
> > hope that's not a bad idea.
>
> Ee.. but it doesn't make sense (for me).
> Thinking that way we need register (or if it's already registered - try
> to buy it) -
> {pld-linux,pldlinux,pld,linux-pld,peelde}.{com,net,org,}{ru,eu,org,net,tv,u
>k,us,} etc...

Sponsors required :)

> More domains - more problems when "owner" has problems with self and
> some day start hating pld (like pld.pl domain ;), more problems with
> hosting it, more problems with paying for it... and we can't register
> everything.
>
> For me 2 domains - pld-linux.org and pld.org.pl (historical purposes) -
> is enough. Any any other shouldn't be hosted together with pld's
> "official" domains.

Hmm.. I didn't though that matter of a domain name will be so controvertible. 
No problem for me to delete that name, host on my own machines or change 
present domain holder. I just want to do a good thing and now I have to 
explain why I did it :(

On the other hand - there will be no problem if PLD will be well organised in 
the formal way, right ? Then the "management" will decide to do things like 
that on one way or another.

-- 
Pozdrawiam, Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en,

Wojciech "Wojtosz" B?aszkowski


From wrobell at pld-linux.org  Mon Mar 24 12:29:56 2008
From: wrobell at pld-linux.org (wrobell)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:29:56 +0000
Subject: pldlinux.pl for PLD Linux purposes
In-Reply-To: <200803232003.00663@wojtosz>
References: <200803221057.58743@wojtosz> <200803230215.30479@wojtosz>
	<20080323140952.GA4751@bzium> <200803232003.00663@wojtosz>
Message-ID: <20080324112956.GB7730@borg>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 08:03:00PM +0100, Wojciech B?aszkowski wrote:
[...]
> pldlinux.pl is only to protect PLD Linux mark.

pld-linux.pl or pldlinux.pl?

imho, adding pldlinux.* will generate more confusion.
can't we stick with pld-linux.*?

regards,

    wrobell <wrobell at pld-linux.org>


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Mar 25 07:43:35 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:43:35 +0200
Subject: ff3b4 linking
Message-ID: <200803250843.35390.glen@pld-linux.org>

hi

anyone can help why this linking fails on ac (apparently it succeeds on th as arekm removed the hack)
and how to fix. as it worked in < ffb4

ccache amd64-pld-linux-g++ -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-
privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-long-long -pedantic -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -fno-strict
-aliasing -Os -fPIC -shared -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,-h,libjemalloc.so -o libjemalloc.so  jemalloc.o     -lpthread   -Wl,-rpath-link,../../dist/bin   -ldl -lm
jemalloc.o(.text+0x187d): In function `choose_arena_hard':
jemalloc.c: undefined reference to `__tls_get_addr'
jemalloc.o(.text+0x35c0): In function `arena_ralloc':
jemalloc.c: undefined reference to `__tls_get_addr'
jemalloc.o(.text+0x4343): In function `malloc_init_hard':
jemalloc.c: undefined reference to `__tls_get_addr'
jemalloc.o(.text+0x43dd): In function `malloc':
jemalloc.c: undefined reference to `__tls_get_addr'
jemalloc.o(.text+0x4557): In function `calloc':
jemalloc.c: undefined reference to `__tls_get_addr'
jemalloc.o(.text+0x469c):jemalloc.c: more undefined references to `__tls_get_addr' follow
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
gmake[4]: *** [libjemalloc.so] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/home/glen/rpm/pld/BUILD/mozilla-firefox-3.0b4/mozilla/obj-amd64/memory/jemalloc'


-- 
glen


From glen at delfi.ee  Tue Mar 25 18:34:25 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:34:25 +0200
Subject: cvs.pld-linux.org
Message-ID: <200803251934.26179.glen@delfi.ee>

please DO SOMETHING with the cvs server.

as such constant locks make say fuck it and go home instead of developing pld!



$ cvs ci -m '- kill really unneccessary poldek configs
- kill rpmlist.d (poldek can solve deps itself)' util-vserver-pld.patch
In module: SOURCES
Checking file: 'util-vserver-pld.patch'
Found package 'util-vserver'
cvs commit: [17:42:22] waiting for cvs's lock in /cvsroot/SOURCES
Tue Mar 25 19:33:04 EET 2008


-- 
glen


From marekguevara at gmail.com  Tue Mar 25 22:52:31 2008
From: marekguevara at gmail.com (Marek Guevara Braun)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:52:31 +0100
Subject: SOURCES (LINUX_2_6): kernel-x86_64.config, kernel-i386.config
	- di...
In-Reply-To: <SOURCES_kernel_i386.config.1.82.10.196@pld-linux.org>
References: <SOURCES_kernel_x86_64.config.1.1.2.165@pld-linux.org>	<SOURCES_kernel_i386.config.1.82.10.195@pld-linux.org>
	<SOURCES_kernel_i386.config.1.82.10.196@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <47E9741F.6030902@gmail.com>

pluto pisze:
> - disable old vesafb(2.0, x86 only), please use new generic uvesafb(2.0/3.0) driver.

Do we need any geninitrd or udev/dev support for this ?

I have tried
modprobe -v uvesafb v86d=/usr/sbin/v86d mode=1280x1024-32 at 60
from the command line, but with no luck.

It was tested on a custom 2.6.24.3-pax-grsecurity-0.4 LINUX_2_6 kernel
(loaded with pax_softmode=1 BTW). I have tried 2 versions of v86d (both
v86d-0.1.3-1.i686) - with klibc and a standard without klibc support.

In both cases dmesg shows sth like:
[170626.597916] uvesafb: Getting VBE info block failed (eax=0x4f00, err=1)
[170626.597921] uvesafb: vbe_init() failed with -22
[170626.597932] uvesafb: probe of uvesafb.0 failed with error -22

Gentoo people write about building v86d against klibc builded against
linux-libc-headers with uvesafb support (I assume that our
linux-libc-headers-2.6.24.3-1.i686 are ok for this) - it haven't helped.

Any success with uvesafb ?

Greets,
Marek








From glen at pld-linux.org  Wed Mar 26 21:57:07 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:57:07 +0200
Subject: vfork
Message-ID: <200803262257.08065.glen@pld-linux.org>

trying to build uclibc on ac-amd64 and get

ld: libc/libc_so.a(vfork.os): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `__NR_vfork' can 
not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

is it outdated llh? some other lib (libc?)?

builder at staff.delfi.ee pld/SPECS $ rpm -q glibc-devel linux-libc-headers
glibc-devel-2.3.6-14.amd64
glibc-devel-2.3.6-14.athlon
linux-libc-headers-2.6.24.3-1.amd64
builder at staff.delfi.ee pld/SPECS $


-- 
glen


From sls at poczta.wp.pl  Thu Mar 27 14:43:18 2008
From: sls at poczta.wp.pl (Szymon Siwek)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:43:18 +0100
Subject: SPECS: FileZilla.spec - rel down because unpackaged files
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_FileZilla.spec.1.23@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_FileZilla.spec.1.22@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_FileZilla.spec.1.23@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20080327134318.GA6762@cion.siwster.com>

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:55:09PM +0100, glen wrote:
> Author: glen                         Date: Thu Mar 27 12:55:09 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - rel down because unpackaged files
> 
> ---- Files affected:
> SPECS:
>    FileZilla.spec (1.22 -> 1.23) 
> 
> @@ -11,7 +15,7 @@
>  Summary(uk.UTF-8):	FTP ?????? ??? X Window
>  Name:		FileZilla
>  Version:	3.0.8.1
> -Release:	1
> +Release:	0.1
>  License:	GPL
>  Group:		X11/Applications/Networking
>  Source0:	http://dl.sourceforge.net/filezilla/%{name}_%{version}_src.tar.bz2

Why not rel 1.1?

-- 
Szymon Siwek


From hawk at limanowa.net  Thu Mar 27 15:20:41 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:20:41 +0100
Subject: SPECS: libntlm.spec - force system libtool, which is not broken; 
	r...
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_libntlm.spec.1.18@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_libntlm.spec.1.17@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_libntlm.spec.1.18@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <47EBAD39.5060503@limanowa.net>

On 27.03.2008 13:18, glen wrote:
> Author: glen                         Date: Thu Mar 27 12:18:17 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - force system libtool, which is not broken; rel 2
> 
> ---- Files affected:
> SPECS:
>    libntlm.spec (1.17 -> 1.18) 

Same problem with gsasl.spec. Maybe it will help in finding reason which 
will allow more generic fix.

M.


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Thu Mar 27 17:29:29 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:29:29 +0100
Subject: SysVinit vs. upstart
In-Reply-To: <1206201633.4797.2.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>
References: <89b6ba3a0803191715l6a64e0a5oaaa59eb55be5b57b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206201633.4797.2.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803270929v6e783dfdxb6cb4949157f17f8@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:00 PM, ?ukasz Jerna? <deejay1 at srem.org> wrote:
> Dnia 2008-03-20, Cz o godzinie 01:15 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki pisze:
>
> > Installing upstart-SysVinit will replace your SysVinit package and
>  > should result in exact behavior.
>  Sadly it doesn't - I'm unable to close my laptop now - it keeps
>  restarting init everytime our scripts try to kill it ;)

Turns out I forgot to push the changes I did to my local copy of
rc.shutdown (added -f to reboot and halt so it does not invoke
shutdown from shutdown itself).

Fixed with rc-scripts-0.4.1.19-1

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution

From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Thu Mar 27 17:33:39 2008
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:33:39 +0100
Subject: SPECS: libntlm.spec - force system libtool, which is not
	broken; r...
In-Reply-To: <47EBAD39.5060503@limanowa.net>
References: <SPECS_libntlm.spec.1.17@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_libntlm.spec.1.18@pld-linux.org>
	<47EBAD39.5060503@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <20080327163339.GB11204@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 03:20:41PM +0100, Marcin Krol wrote:
> On 27.03.2008 13:18, glen wrote:
> > Author: glen                         Date: Thu Mar 27 12:18:17 2008 GMT
> > Module: SPECS                         Tag: HEAD
> > ---- Log message:
> > - force system libtool, which is not broken; rel 2
> > 
> > ---- Files affected:
> > SPECS:
> >    libntlm.spec (1.17 -> 1.18) 

Ugly, ugly, ugly.

> Same problem with gsasl.spec. Maybe it will help in finding reason which 
> will allow more generic fix.

It seems that problem comes from libtool macros placed in supplied m4 subdir
(libtool.m4, lt*.m4). There are two solutions:
- use libtool 2.2[1] which will overwrite these files with up to date
  versions
- remove these files (like I did in shishi.spec before libtool 2.2 was
  released).


[1] I'm not sure if it's ready for PLD - I've tested only ~30(?) packages
  utilizing libtool so far, some of them needed patching, some of them
  required patching libtool ;). There'll probably be libtool 2.2.2 with
  most important fixes soon.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From glen at pld-linux.org  Thu Mar 27 17:49:11 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:49:11 +0200
Subject: SPECS: libntlm.spec - force system libtool, which is not broken;
	r...
In-Reply-To: <20080327163339.GB11204@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <SPECS_libntlm.spec.1.17@pld-linux.org>
	<47EBAD39.5060503@limanowa.net>
	<20080327163339.GB11204@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <200803271849.12335.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Thursday 27 March 2008 18:33:39 Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> It seems that problem comes from libtool macros placed in supplied m4
> subdir (libtool.m4, lt*.m4). There are two solutions:
> - use libtool 2.2[1] which will overwrite these files with up to date
> ? versions
> - remove these files (like I did in shishi.spec before libtool 2.2 was
> ? released).

went with rm -f method.

-- 
glen


From deejay1 at srem.org  Fri Mar 28 07:23:32 2008
From: deejay1 at srem.org (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Jerna=C5=9B?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:23:32 +0100
Subject: SysVinit vs. upstart
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803270929v6e783dfdxb6cb4949157f17f8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <89b6ba3a0803191715l6a64e0a5oaaa59eb55be5b57b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206201633.4797.2.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>
	<89b6ba3a0803270929v6e783dfdxb6cb4949157f17f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1206685412.4997.0.camel@betty.paderewskiego11>

Dnia 2008-03-27, czw o godzinie 17:29 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki pisze:
> Turns out I forgot to push the changes I did to my local copy of
> rc.shutdown (added -f to reboot and halt so it does not invoke
> shutdown from shutdown itself).
> 
> Fixed with rc-scripts-0.4.1.19-1
> 

Works fine, thanks.

-- 
DeeJay1



From hawk at limanowa.net  Fri Mar 28 22:52:12 2008
From: hawk at limanowa.net (Marcin Krol)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:52:12 +0100
Subject: SPECS (AC-branch): util-vserver.spec - merged too much; rel 4
In-Reply-To: <SPECS_util_vserver.spec.1.138.2.36@pld-linux.org>
References: <SPECS_util_vserver.spec.1.138.2.35@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_util_vserver.spec.1.138.2.36@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <47ED688C.7050405@limanowa.net>

On 28.03.2008 22:53, glen wrote:
> Author: glen                         Date: Fri Mar 28 21:53:41 2008 GMT
> Module: SPECS                         Tag: AC-branch
> ---- Log message:
> - merged too much; rel 4
> 
> ---- Files affected:
> SPECS:
>    util-vserver.spec (1.138.2.35 -> 1.138.2.36) 

Why too much? Why no template for Alpine Linux on AC-branch?

M.


From glen at delfi.ee  Fri Mar 28 23:20:12 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:20:12 +0200
Subject: SPECS (AC-branch): util-vserver.spec - merged too much; rel 4
In-Reply-To: <47ED688C.7050405@limanowa.net>
References: <SPECS_util_vserver.spec.1.138.2.35@pld-linux.org>
	<SPECS_util_vserver.spec.1.138.2.36@pld-linux.org>
	<47ED688C.7050405@limanowa.net>
Message-ID: <200803290020.13148.glen@delfi.ee>

On Friday 28 March 2008 23:52, Marcin Krol wrote:
> On 28.03.2008 22:53, glen wrote:
> > Author: glen                         Date: Fri Mar 28 21:53:41 2008 GMT
> > Module: SPECS                         Tag: AC-branch
> > ---- Log message:
> > - merged too much; rel 4
> >
> > ---- Files affected:
> > SPECS:
> >    util-vserver.spec (1.138.2.35 -> 1.138.2.36)
>
> Why too much? Why no template for Alpine Linux on AC-branch?

check the Version: tag :)

and if you ask why such version, try building .215 with so old llh as ac has.

-- 
glen


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sat Mar 29 17:09:40 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:09:40 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803181432i5c9f8257k4aa626f8d169e8b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803182318.43972.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803181432i5c9f8257k4aa626f8d169e8b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803291709.45017.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> It's not a valid URI to put in spec. Not if you want to be able to
> freely switch between different URI schemas (http:// vs. ftp:// is a
> good enough example).
>
Do we need this? Where and for what?

> In http schema the "?" character serves the purpose of separating a
> document name from a query string. Therefore the question mark is not
> part of the document requested, it's there to pass additional
> parameters to the http server. It should also not be saved as part of
> the file name. The file name should be derived from either response
> headers (for example "Disposition" headers allows one to set the
> desired file name) or the server's document name (the part between the
> last "/" and "?"). wget behaves differently and saves the question
> mark as part of the file name which is required for wget's teleport
> mode to work (where you request a full website mirror locally).
>
> Even if you asked wget to behave like a usual web browser (and thus
> have the correct file name on distfiles), the builder script still has
> no idea what name to search for (as the web server is free to pass any
> file name in the response headers).
>
I know that and this only explains why wget saves files with everything 
after "?" and also explains why we don't use name given by webbrowser. This is 
obvious. But this still doesn't explain why you refuse to serve wget encoded 
name part of URL when downloading from distfiles (especially when builder 
script could even distinguish if file was downloaded from http or ftp because 
it has such information in spec - but this is not required).

Please tell me what this will brake. What will/could fail after encoding name 
when getting files from distfiles? For me this is correct fix i don't 
understand why You telling its not? I just want some example;)

> If you want to fix anything, I'd suggest fixing the spec by using an
> unambiguous URI.
Its not unambiguous, its correct. If I write at the beginning http then its 
obvious that this is a http:// URI. If I will write ftp:// then its obvious 
that this will be a ftp URI. Builder also has this information and could even 
decide what to do when getting files from distfiles.

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sat Mar 29 16:52:25 2008
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:52:25 +0100
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803291709.45017.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803182318.43972.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803181432i5c9f8257k4aa626f8d169e8b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803291709.45017.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0803290852i489591a0s44852db9417ffa89@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/29 Kamil Dziedzic <kamil.listy at klecza.pl>:
> Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>  > It's not a valid URI to put in spec. Not if you want to be able to
>  > freely switch between different URI schemas (http:// vs. ftp:// is a
>  > good enough example).
>  Do we need this? Where and for what?

For using distfiles.

>  I know that and this only explains why wget saves files with everything
>  after "?" and also explains why we don't use name given by webbrowser. This is
>  obvious. But this still doesn't explain why you refuse to serve wget encoded
>  name part of URL when downloading from distfiles (especially when builder
>  script could even distinguish if file was downloaded from http or ftp because
>  it has such information in spec - but this is not required).

Soon we will get rpm that is capable of downloading files on its own.
It's likely that it will behave in a more standardized way than wget.
Such URIs will pose a problem at some point in time.

>  Please tell me what this will brake. What will/could fail after encoding name
>  when getting files from distfiles? For me this is correct fix i don't
>  understand why You telling its not? I just want some example;)

See above. wget is not the only downloader on the planet.

>  > If you want to fix anything, I'd suggest fixing the spec by using an
>  > unambiguous URI.
>  Its not unambiguous, its correct. If I write at the beginning http then its
>  obvious that this is a http:// URI. If I will write ftp:// then its obvious
>  that this will be a ftp URI. Builder also has this information and could even
>  decide what to do when getting files from distfiles.

The URI is correct but wget's behavior is non-standard. It should not
include the question mark and the params in the file name and
distfiles/builder should not depend on it.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki
PLD Linux Distribution


From glen at delfi.ee  Sun Mar 30 08:44:33 2008
From: glen at delfi.ee (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:44:33 +0200
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803290852i489591a0s44852db9417ffa89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803291709.45017.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803290852i489591a0s44852db9417ffa89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803300944.33964.glen@delfi.ee>

On Saturday 29 March 2008 17:52, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> > ?> If you want to fix anything, I'd suggest fixing the spec by using an
> > ?> unambiguous URI.
> > ?Its not unambiguous, its correct. If I write at the beginning http then
> > its obvious that this is a http:// URI. If I will write ftp:// then its
> > obvious that this will be a ftp URI. Builder also has this information
> > and could even decide what to do when getting files from distfiles.
>
> The URI is correct but wget's behavior is non-standard. It should not
> include the question mark and the params in the file name and
> distfiles/builder should not depend on it.

we could enforce -O outfile to wget, and i think we should. not sure how it 
would be included on ~/.builderrc due different downloaders [0]. and of 
course different df download schema is already supported [1].

$ cat ~/.builderrc
PROTOCOL="http" # [1]
USE_AXEL=yes # [0]
AXEL_OPTS="-n 6"
$


-- 
glen


From glen at pld-linux.org  Sun Mar 30 14:37:27 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:37:27 +0200
Subject: DISTFILES: roundcubemail-0.1-r1223-20080330.tar.gz
In-Reply-To: <4665.1206878728@distfiles.pld-linux.org>
References: <4665.1206878728@distfiles.pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <200803301537.27846.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Sunday 30 March 2008 15:05:28 you wrote:
> Files fetched: 0
>
> ALREADY GOT: no-url://roundcubemail-0.1-r1223-20080330.tar.gz
> 	0006edead2286908d8145b1be181f110  roundcubemail-0.1-r1223-20080330.tar.gz

nice checksum :)

-- 
glen


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Mar 30 17:20:18 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:20:18 +0200
Subject: Package with make-request.sh?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803182358590.13673@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
References: <200803172056.07904.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803182224.08037.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<alpine.LNX.1.00.0803182358590.13673@fgnss.gnfx.tqn.cy>
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Added, thanks.

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Mar 30 17:21:47 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:21:47 +0200
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803191234.25542.glen@pld-linux.org>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
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Message-ID: <200803301721.47846.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> and always possible to upload file with custom name to distfiles and use
> nourl sources in such cases.
How? For example I need this for make-request.spec.

But this is still ugly workaround.
-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Mar 30 17:34:53 2008
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:34:53 +0200
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0803290852i489591a0s44852db9417ffa89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<200803291709.45017.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803290852i489591a0s44852db9417ffa89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200803301734.54030.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Dnia sobota 29 marzec 2008, Patryk Zawadzki napisa?:
> >  Do we need this? Where and for what?
> For using distfiles.
But where is a problem? Please be more verbose. Why it will fail if we will 
use my method? Some example.

> See above. wget is not the only downloader on the planet.
Ok I understand this, but right now on builders it is used. I understand also 
that wget's method to get files is bad but right now we are using it. So I 
want simply fix/workaround this method so this will start work right now.

Ok eot from me. I only want to say that builder script doesn't work well right 
now and this is highly uncomfortable to use workarounds for Sources which 
uses some special characters. This is really ugly;)

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From ankry at green.mif.pg.gda.pl  Sun Mar 30 18:15:59 2008
From: ankry at green.mif.pg.gda.pl (Andrzej Krzysztofowicz)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:15:59 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803301721.47846.kamil.listy@klecza.pl> from "Kamil Dziedzic"
	at Mar 30, 2008 05:21:47 PM
Message-ID: <200803301615.m2UGFxGq001983@green.mif.pg.gda.pl>

Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> Elan Ruusam=C3=A4e wrote:
> > and always possible to upload file with custom name to distfiles and use
> > nourl sources in such cases.
> How? For example I need this for make-request.spec.

Manually using dropin & test.spec ?

-- 
=======================================================================
  Andrzej M. Krzysztofowicz                  ankry at mif.pg.gda.pl
  phone (48)(58) 347 19 36
Faculty of Applied Phys. & Math.,   Gdansk University of Technology


From glen at pld-linux.org  Mon Mar 31 13:14:32 2008
From: glen at pld-linux.org (Elan =?iso-8859-15?q?Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:14:32 +0200
Subject: rescuecd.spec - problems with sending build request
In-Reply-To: <200803301734.54030.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <200803180037.38850.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
	<89b6ba3a0803290852i489591a0s44852db9417ffa89@mail.gmail.com>
	<200803301734.54030.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <200803311414.32957.glen@pld-linux.org>

On Sunday 30 March 2008 18:34:53 Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> > See above. wget is not the only downloader on the planet.
>
> Ok I understand this, but right now on builders it is used. I understand
> also that wget's method to get files is bad but right now we are using it.
> So I want simply fix/workaround this method so this will start work right
> now.
>
> Ok eot from me. I only want to say that builder script doesn't work well
> right now and this is highly uncomfortable to use workarounds for Sources
> which uses some special characters. This is really ugly;)

so as i said, builder should setup output filename for downloader and then 
there's no more ambiguity depending on downloader. however here it will be 
questionable what the output filename would be, anything after slash (using 
basename(1) ?) should it be encoded in some form? as it could be urlencoded 
and then you should urldecode it?

-- 
glen