From baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl  Mon Nov  1 00:23:42 2010
From: baggins at sith.mimuw.edu.pl (Jan =?utf-8?Q?R=C4=99korajski?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 00:23:42 +0100
Subject: packages: dovecot/dovecot.spec - copy-pasto (restart correct
	service), spot...
In-Reply-To: <packages_dovecot_dovecot.spec.1.171@pld-linux.org>
References: <packages_dovecot_dovecot.spec.1.170@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_dovecot_dovecot.spec.1.171@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20101031232342.GA10742@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>

Why are you doing a "reload" on upgrade?  Don't blindly copy-paste,
if sshd does exec voodoo after a HUP it does not mean every daemon does.
This should be a "restart", you want to exec a new binary on update.
Just reloading configs is totally pointless and may even be harmful
if some options change and old daemon won't grok them and die.

On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, pawelz wrote:

> Author: pawelz                       Date: Sun Oct 31 13:16:04 2010 GMT
> Module: packages                      Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - copy-pasto (restart correct service), spotted by arekm, thx
> - rel 4
> 
> ---- Files affected:
> packages/dovecot:
>    dovecot.spec (1.170 -> 1.171) 
> 
> ---- Diffs:
> 
> ================================================================
> Index: packages/dovecot/dovecot.spec
> diff -u packages/dovecot/dovecot.spec:1.170 packages/dovecot/dovecot.spec:1.171
> --- packages/dovecot/dovecot.spec:1.170	Sun Oct 31 02:17:46 2010
> +++ packages/dovecot/dovecot.spec	Sun Oct 31 14:15:59 2010
> @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@
>  Summary(pl.UTF-8):	Serwer IMAP i POP3 pisany g??wnie z my?l? o bezpiecze?stwie
>  Name:		dovecot
>  Version:	2.0.6
> -Release:	3
> +Release:	4
>  Epoch:		1
>  License:	MIT (libraries), LGPL v2.1 (the rest)
>  Group:		Networking/Daemons
> @@ -208,7 +208,7 @@
>  
>  %post
>  /sbin/chkconfig --add dovecot
> -%service sshd reload "dovecot"
> +%service dovecot reload "dovecot"
>  
>  %preun
>  if [ "$1" = "0" ]; then
> @@ -341,6 +341,10 @@
>  All persons listed below can be reached at <cvs_login>@pld-linux.org
>  
>  $Log$
> +Revision 1.171  2010/10/31 13:15:59  pawelz
> +- copy-pasto (restart correct service), spotted by arekm, thx
> +- rel 4
> +
>  Revision 1.170  2010/10/31 00:17:46  pawelz
>  - use %service macro
>  - dropped TODO (done)
> ================================================================
> 
> ---- CVS-web:
>     http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/packages/dovecot/dovecot.spec?r1=1.170&r2=1.171&f=u
> 
> _______________________________________________
> pld-cvs-commit mailing list
> pld-cvs-commit at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-cvs-commit

-- 
Jan R?korajski            |  ALL SUSPECTS ARE GUILTY. PERIOD!
baggins<at>mimuw.edu.pl   |  OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE SUSPECTS, WOULD THEY?
BOFH, MANIAC              |                   -- TROOPS by Kevin Rubio


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Fri Nov  5 23:16:49 2010
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 23:16:49 +0100
Subject: cyrus-sasl upgrade fails because of package split
Message-ID: <201011052316.49721.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Hi.

LC_ALL=c poldek -u cyrus-sasl
linux.org/dists/th/test/x86_64/RPMS/
Loading [pndir]th...
Loading [pndir]th...
16195 packages read
Processing dependencies...
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.x86_64 obsoleted by cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-9.x86_64
  orphaned redland-1.0.9-6.x86_64 marks cyrus-sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64 (cap 
libsasl2.so.2()(64bit))
There are 2 packages to install (1 marked by dependencies), 1 to remove:
I cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-9.x86_64
D cyrus-sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64
R cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.x86_64
This operation will free 6.0B of disk space.
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-9.x86_64.rpm: sha1 md5 OK
cyrus-sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64.rpm: sha1 md5 OK
Need to get 292.9KB of archives.
cyrus-sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64.rpm: sha1 md5 OK
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-9.x86_64.rpm: sha1 md5 OK
Executing rpm --upgrade -vh --root / --define _repackage_all_erasures 0...
warning: /root/.poldek-cache/ftp_ftp.th.pld-
linux.org.dists.th.PLD.x86.64.RPMS/cyrus-sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64.rpm: Header 
V4 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e4f1bc2d
error: Failed dependencies:
        cyrus-sasl < 2.1.23-8 conflicts with cyrus-sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64

How this should be fixed? Isn't that a bug in rpm? If in one transaction 
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-9.x86_64 obsoletes cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.x86_64 should cyrus-
sasl-libs-2.1.23-9.x86_64 (which is installed in this same transaction) still 
check conditions against cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-6.x86_64?

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic


From caleb at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov  8 15:58:53 2010
From: caleb at pld-linux.org (Caleb Maclennan)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:58:53 +0200
Subject: A couple questions about the website
Message-ID: <AANLkTinLm7Gh=-shZwRU0eEwVPugfLpoS9RA6sL8PO7M@mail.gmail.com>

Three questions about the main pld-linux.org site:

1) How does one get a working wiki user? I've tried signing up with my
cvs editor name and with a WikiName and every other suggestion but
no-way-no-how am I able to edit the wiki pages.

2) How are changes from the PLDWWW cvs module pushed to the live site?

3) Are the moinmoin package files and storage dir that run the site
somewhere in version control? If so where and if not why?

At the very least I'd like to tend to some basic fixes around the
site. It could use some love.

Caleb

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 16:29, caleb <caleb at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> - Removed links to dead domains


From wrobell at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov  8 16:16:13 2010
From: wrobell at pld-linux.org (Artur Wroblewski)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:16:13 +0000
Subject: th@ppc
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=BqqaN21NG9ztPiy4-sR8sdX-eJtGz2UOyQF94@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Does anyone have a TH builder for PowerPC (more or less updated?)

Best regards,

w


From arekm at maven.pl  Mon Nov  8 16:52:41 2010
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:52:41 +0100
Subject: A couple questions about the website
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinLm7Gh=-shZwRU0eEwVPugfLpoS9RA6sL8PO7M@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinLm7Gh=-shZwRU0eEwVPugfLpoS9RA6sL8PO7M@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201011081652.41321.arekm@maven.pl>

On Monday 08 of November 2010, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
> Three questions about the main pld-linux.org site:
> 
> 1) How does one get a working wiki user? I've tried signing up with my
> cvs editor name and with a WikiName and every other suggestion but
> no-way-no-how am I able to edit the wiki pages.

Good question, someone had admin rights there. I could figure out since I have 
access to that server.

> 2) How are changes from the PLDWWW cvs module pushed to the live site?

Manually by those who have access to web server. We had automatic cvs up with 
STABLE tag once at web page, maybe we should reintroduce that.

> 3) Are the moinmoin package files and storage dir that run the site
> somewhere in version control?

AFAIK no.

> If so where and if not why?

No one did that. Send details privately on what do you mean exactly and I 
possibly can add this.

> At the very least I'd like to tend to some basic fixes around the
> site.

> It could use some love.

True.

> 
> Caleb

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From sparky at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov  8 18:11:58 2010
From: sparky at pld-linux.org (Przemyslaw Iskra)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:11:58 +0100
Subject: th@ppc
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BqqaN21NG9ztPiy4-sR8sdX-eJtGz2UOyQF94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=BqqaN21NG9ztPiy4-sR8sdX-eJtGz2UOyQF94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101108171158.GA19196@pld-linux.org>

On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:16:13PM +0000, Artur Wroblewski wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone have a TH builder for PowerPC (more or less updated?)

no, not yet, sorry

-- 
 ____    sparky  --  Przemyslaw  ................ LANG...Pl,Ca,Es,En
/____) ___  ___  _ _ || Iskra   : WWW...http://ppcrcd.pld-linux.org/
\____\| -_)'___| ||^'||//\\//   : WWW2..............http://rsget.pl/
(____/||   (_-_|_||  ||\\ ||    : EMail.......<sparky at pld-linux.org>


From wiget at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov  8 20:55:59 2010
From: wiget at pld-linux.org (Artur Frysiak)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:55:59 +0100
Subject: packages: poppler/poppler.spec - Up to 0.15.1
In-Reply-To: <packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.118@pld-linux.org>
References: <packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.117@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.118@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNj9Mxp_gyj9zvHORtuFdN02ZxyDf9NEd11BMC@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 20:25, caleb <caleb at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> Author: caleb ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Date: Mon Nov ?8 19:25:19 2010 GMT
> Module: packages ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - Up to 0.15.1
>
> ---- Files affected:
> packages/poppler:
> ? poppler.spec (1.117 -> 1.118)

This is unstable/test release. Please use DEVEL branch for it.
-- 
Artur Frysiak


From caleb at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov  8 21:00:32 2010
From: caleb at pld-linux.org (Caleb Maclennan)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:00:32 +0200
Subject: packages: poppler/poppler.spec - Up to 0.15.1
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNj9Mxp_gyj9zvHORtuFdN02ZxyDf9NEd11BMC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.117@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.118@pld-linux.org>
	<AANLkTimNj9Mxp_gyj9zvHORtuFdN02ZxyDf9NEd11BMC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik=YL-2Ufwyynpba9rrGzjNNe8SiA1DqRLas1B9@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 21:55, Artur Frysiak <wiget at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 20:25, caleb <caleb at pld-linux.org> wrote:
>> Author: caleb ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Date: Mon Nov ?8 19:25:19 2010 GMT
>> Module: packages ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Tag: HEAD
>> ---- Log message:
>> - Up to 0.15.1
>>
>> ---- Files affected:
>> packages/poppler:
>> ? poppler.spec (1.117 -> 1.118)
>
> This is unstable/test release. Please use DEVEL branch for it.

You're right, sorry my bad -- I missed that that was an unstable
branch AND that there already was a devel tag going for it. Is the
best way just to reverse the diff on that commit?

Caleb


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov  9 07:37:11 2010
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 07:37:11 +0100
Subject: packages: poppler/poppler.spec - Up to 0.15.1
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=YL-2Ufwyynpba9rrGzjNNe8SiA1DqRLas1B9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.117@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.118@pld-linux.org>
	<AANLkTimNj9Mxp_gyj9zvHORtuFdN02ZxyDf9NEd11BMC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=YL-2Ufwyynpba9rrGzjNNe8SiA1DqRLas1B9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101109063711.GA32741@mail>

Also cairomm 1.9.x and AFAIR fribidi 0.19.x are development versions...
(stable cairomm is 1.8.x)


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From plddev at tlen.pl  Tue Nov  9 09:04:16 2010
From: plddev at tlen.pl (SiMH)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:04:16 +0100
Subject: [ti] loading ODT files in Scribus
Message-ID: <201011090904.16881.plddev@tlen.pl>

Hi,
current (ti + ti-dev) version of Scribus from repo crushes when loading .odt 
files.
It spits on console:
$ scribus
scribus: symbol lookup error: 
/usr/lib/scribus/plugins//gettext//libodtimplugin.so: undefined symbol: 
xmlSAXParseFile

best regards
simh


From lisu87 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 09:24:09 2010
From: lisu87 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBMaXNvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 09:24:09 +0100
Subject: packages: poppler/poppler.spec - Up to 0.15.1
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=YL-2Ufwyynpba9rrGzjNNe8SiA1DqRLas1B9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.117@pld-linux.org>	<packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.118@pld-linux.org>	<AANLkTimNj9Mxp_gyj9zvHORtuFdN02ZxyDf9NEd11BMC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=YL-2Ufwyynpba9rrGzjNNe8SiA1DqRLas1B9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CD90529.9030801@gmail.com>

W dniu 08.11.2010 21:00, Caleb Maclennan pisze:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 21:55, Artur Frysiak<wiget at pld-linux.org>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 20:25, caleb<caleb at pld-linux.org>  wrote:
>>> Author: caleb                        Date: Mon Nov  8 19:25:19 2010 GMT
>>> Module: packages                      Tag: HEAD
>>> ---- Log message:
>>> - Up to 0.15.1
>>>
>>> ---- Files affected:
>>> packages/poppler:
>>>    poppler.spec (1.117 ->  1.118)
>> This is unstable/test release. Please use DEVEL branch for it.
> You're right, sorry my bad -- I missed that that was an unstable
> branch AND that there already was a devel tag going for it. Is the
> best way just to reverse the diff on that commit?
>
> Caleb
Change version back to 0.14.4 and versions of sonames back to previous 
values and commit then.


From caleb at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov  9 09:47:43 2010
From: caleb at pld-linux.org (Caleb Maclennan)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:47:43 +0200
Subject: packages: poppler/poppler.spec - Up to 0.15.1
In-Reply-To: <20101109063711.GA32741@mail>
References: <packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.117@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_poppler_poppler.spec.1.118@pld-linux.org>
	<AANLkTimNj9Mxp_gyj9zvHORtuFdN02ZxyDf9NEd11BMC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik=YL-2Ufwyynpba9rrGzjNNe8SiA1DqRLas1B9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101109063711.GA32741@mail>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin+BKeCrHhp++EZzbz=yYgHz4DW+_m2RR_5oOFF@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 08:37, Jakub Bogusz <qboosh at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> Also cairomm 1.9.x and AFAIR fribidi 0.19.x are development versions...
> (stable cairomm is 1.8.x)

The specs for poppler and cairomm have been reset to their proper
stable branches.

For fribidi, I would argue that it might be just as well to keep
0.19.x as stable. It is a pre release branch for 2.x but the upstream
project has recommended it for production use for over a year now.
Thoughts? I can tag it devel and build it separately for my purposes
if there are problems with it, but I'm seeing more issues with the old
0.10.x than this branch.

Caleb


From caleb at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov  9 13:50:54 2010
From: caleb at pld-linux.org (Caleb Maclennan)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:50:54 +0200
Subject: PLD-doc: PLD-update-TODO - updated
In-Reply-To: <PLD_doc_PLD_update_TODO.1.1006@pld-linux.org>
References: <PLD_doc_PLD_update_TODO.1.1005@pld-linux.org>
	<PLD_doc_PLD_update_TODO.1.1006@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim4CZ3f3JV2O2bJpA8PzOqxTJyfgs4_wS4Roc4D@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 13:20, arekm <arekm at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> -busybox(42) [OLD] 1.16.2 [NEW] 1.17.3

I've been thinking a little about the notify script that generates
these messages. I'm working on a special purpose live-cd project and
upgrading the software that will go into it, so it's been a useful
little script.

However it doesn't seem that there is a formalized way of dealing with
different lines (devel, stable) or partial upgrades.

For example above busybox is no longer marked as needing an upgrade
because I started work on it yesterday. However I was unable to finish
the process and the current spec has a non-integer release number and
does not build. I committed the work so that the patches I was able to
update are available to someone else trying to get it upgraded, but
not because it ought to be marked off of a to-do list.

Also, there are lots of packages that have specific devel numbering
schemes (example: perl cpan packages where x.x[13579]x is devel and
x.x[24680]x is stable). The pldnotify.awk script doesn't seem to have
a way to understand these. Even the ispre() function doesn't seem to
work in many cases where it should.

Am I missing some available tools or is this really a hit-and miss
operation right now?

Caleb


From arekm at maven.pl  Tue Nov  9 13:58:37 2010
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:58:37 +0100
Subject: PLD-doc: PLD-update-TODO - updated
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim4CZ3f3JV2O2bJpA8PzOqxTJyfgs4_wS4Roc4D@mail.gmail.com>
References: <PLD_doc_PLD_update_TODO.1.1005@pld-linux.org>
	<PLD_doc_PLD_update_TODO.1.1006@pld-linux.org>
	<AANLkTim4CZ3f3JV2O2bJpA8PzOqxTJyfgs4_wS4Roc4D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201011091358.37332.arekm@maven.pl>

On Tuesday 09 of November 2010, Caleb Maclennan wrote:

> I've been thinking a little about the notify script that generates
> these messages. I'm working on a special purpose live-cd project and
> upgrading the software that will go into it, so it's been a useful
> little script.
[...]

This is very simple loop running packages/pldnotify.awk on each spec and 
commiting result.

> Am I missing some available tools or is this really a hit-and miss
> operation right now?

AFAIK Debian has some better tool.

> Caleb

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Wed Nov 10 22:34:39 2010
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:34:39 +0100
Subject: packages (DEVEL): freedroidrpg/freedroidrpg.spec - up to 0.14rc1
In-Reply-To: <packages_freedroidrpg_freedroidrpg.spec.1.24.2.1@pld-linux.org>
References: <packages_freedroidrpg_freedroidrpg.spec.1.24@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_freedroidrpg_freedroidrpg.spec.1.24.2.1@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTike278Brd_JsTrUJx7_gTS-wZ+wF3HEYt5LJktL@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:25 AM, lisu <lisu at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> -Akcja rozgrywa si? w czasie, gdy pewien sfrustrowany pracownik uwalnia
> +Akcja rozgrywa si? w czasie, gdy pewien sflustrowany pracownik uwalnia

http://www.sjp.pl/co/frustracja

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki


From glen at pld-linux.org  Thu Nov 11 17:01:48 2010
From: glen at pld-linux.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elan_Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:01:48 +0200
Subject: A couple questions about the website
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinLm7Gh=-shZwRU0eEwVPugfLpoS9RA6sL8PO7M@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinLm7Gh=-shZwRU0eEwVPugfLpoS9RA6sL8PO7M@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CDC136C.4000803@pld-linux.org>

  On 08.11.2010 16:58, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
> 1) How does one get a working wiki user? I've tried signing up with my
> cvs editor name and with a WikiName and every other suggestion but
> no-way-no-how am I able to edit the wiki pages.
>

there actually exists dokuwiki install:
http://www.pld-linux.org/dokuwiki/

currently it uses pldusers.org theme, so if somebody would
create theme similar to current www in dokuwiki format,
i'd finish the data migration and replace the moinmoun install

moinmoin install is outdated, unmaintained (at least in pld side),
dokuwiki i use at least myself, so i could improve and tech support it.

currently that dw install has synced password files from cvs,
so you can use those to authenticate.
ideally there should be written authenticator plugin which
authenticates using pld cvs server.

you can contact me privately (email, jid) if interested more
(want admin access or any thing else in that topic).

-- 
glen



From arekm at maven.pl  Sun Nov 14 15:37:52 2010
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:37:52 +0100
Subject: [INFO]: Th make-request.sh and queue.html addresses
Message-ID: <201011141537.52505.arekm@maven.pl>


Th make-request.sh request handling server has changed. Please use

builderth at pld-linux.org (instead of builderth at ep09.pld-linux.org)
http://src.th.pld-linux.org:1234/ (instead of http://ep09.pld-linux.org:1234/)

Queue is now at http://src.th.pld-linux.org/queue.html (instead of 
http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~builderth/queue.html)

Old addresses are currently working but can stop working without any notice.
-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Sun Nov 14 22:50:44 2010
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:50:44 +0100
Subject: packages: gdk-pixbuf2/gdk-pixbuf2.spec - +x
	libpixbufloader-*.so,  - removed...
In-Reply-To: <packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.12@pld-linux.org>
References: <packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.11@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.12@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20101114215044.GK24059@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:17:27PM +0100, gotar wrote:
>  
> -%{__rm} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/%{abiver}/loaders/*.la
> +rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/%{abiver}/loaders/*.la
> +rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/libgdk_pixbuf{,_xlib}-2.0.la
>  
> -%{!?with_apidocs:%{__rm} -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
> +%{!?with_apidocs:rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}

%{__rm} is intentional here.

rm -f doesn't fail if specified file/directory doesn't exist.

> -%find_lang gdk-pixbuf
> +%find_lang %{name}

Wrong, the translation domain is gdk-pixbuf, not gdk-pixbuf2.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From gotar at polanet.pl  Sun Nov 14 23:31:07 2010
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:31:07 +0100
Subject: packages: gdk-pixbuf2/gdk-pixbuf2.spec - +x
	libpixbufloader-*.so,  - removed...
In-Reply-To: <20101114215044.GK24059@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.11@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.12@pld-linux.org>
	<20101114215044.GK24059@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <20101114223107.GA32415@polanet.pl>

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 22:50:44 +0100, Jakub Bogusz wrote:

>> -%{__rm} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/%{abiver}/loaders/*.la
>> +rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/%{abiver}/loaders/*.la
>> +rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/libgdk_pixbuf{,_xlib}-2.0.la
>>  
>> -%{!?with_apidocs:%{__rm} -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
>> +%{!?with_apidocs:rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
> 
> %{__rm} is intentional here.
> 
> rm -f doesn't fail if specified file/directory doesn't exist.

Why should it fail? And if we want so - why not plain rm without -f?

>> -%find_lang gdk-pixbuf
>> +%find_lang %{name}
> 
> Wrong, the translation domain is gdk-pixbuf, not gdk-pixbuf2.

Right, I should have changed it to:

%find_lang gdk-pixbuf %{name}

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov 15 07:14:26 2010
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:14:26 +0100
Subject: packages: gdk-pixbuf2/gdk-pixbuf2.spec - +x
	libpixbufloader-*.so,  - removed...
In-Reply-To: <20101114223107.GA32415@polanet.pl>
References: <packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.11@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.12@pld-linux.org>
	<20101114215044.GK24059@stranger.qboosh.pl>
	<20101114223107.GA32415@polanet.pl>
Message-ID: <20101115061426.GQ5518@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:31:07PM +0100, Tomasz Pala wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 22:50:44 +0100, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> 
> >> -%{__rm} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/%{abiver}/loaders/*.la
> >> +rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/%{abiver}/loaders/*.la
> >> +rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/libgdk_pixbuf{,_xlib}-2.0.la
> >>  
> >> -%{!?with_apidocs:%{__rm} -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
> >> +%{!?with_apidocs:rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
> > 
> > %{__rm} is intentional here.
> > 
> > rm -f doesn't fail if specified file/directory doesn't exist.
> 
> Why should it fail?

We don't want to keep hundreds of obsolete rms - nobody checks such
commands on upgrade unless build fails.

> And if we want so - why not plain rm without -f?

%{__rm} is defined as "rm --interactive=never".
Plain rm can ask for deletion if file has read-only mode.


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov 15 08:35:57 2010
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:35:57 +0100
Subject: [INFO]: Th make-request.sh and queue.html addresses
In-Reply-To: <201011141537.52505.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <201011141537.52505.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <20101115073557.GR5518@stranger.qboosh.pl>

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:37:52PM +0100, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> 
> Th make-request.sh request handling server has changed. Please use
> 
> builderth at pld-linux.org (instead of builderth at ep09.pld-linux.org)
> http://src.th.pld-linux.org:1234/ (instead of http://ep09.pld-linux.org:1234/)

<builderth at pld-linux.org>: host b.mx.pld-linux.org[217.149.246.12] said: 550
    5.1.1 <builderth at pld-linux.org>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
    (in reply to RCPT TO command)


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From arekm at maven.pl  Mon Nov 15 08:48:13 2010
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:48:13 +0100
Subject: [INFO]: Th make-request.sh and queue.html addresses
In-Reply-To: <20101115073557.GR5518@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <201011141537.52505.arekm@maven.pl>
	<20101115073557.GR5518@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <201011150848.13213.arekm@maven.pl>

On Monday 15 of November 2010, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:37:52PM +0100, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> > Th make-request.sh request handling server has changed. Please use
> > 
> > builderth at pld-linux.org (instead of builderth at ep09.pld-linux.org)
> > http://src.th.pld-linux.org:1234/ (instead of
> > http://ep09.pld-linux.org:1234/)
> 
> <builderth at pld-linux.org>: host b.mx.pld-linux.org[217.149.246.12] said:
> 550 5.1.1 <builderth at pld-linux.org>: Recipient address rejected: User
> unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)

Ups, fixed. There was builder-th@ only. Now are both. Still, better is to use 
http:// make-request.sh interface.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From gotar at polanet.pl  Mon Nov 15 14:02:21 2010
From: gotar at polanet.pl (Tomasz Pala)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:02:21 +0100
Subject: packages: gdk-pixbuf2/gdk-pixbuf2.spec - +x
	libpixbufloader-*.so,  - removed...
In-Reply-To: <20101115061426.GQ5518@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.11@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_gdk_pixbuf2_gdk_pixbuf2.spec.1.12@pld-linux.org>
	<20101114215044.GK24059@stranger.qboosh.pl>
	<20101114223107.GA32415@polanet.pl>
	<20101115061426.GQ5518@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <20101115130221.GA11089@polanet.pl>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 07:14:26 +0100, Jakub Bogusz wrote:

>> >> -%{!?with_apidocs:%{__rm} -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
                                  ^ removed this one too
>> >> +%{!?with_apidocs:rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_gtkdocdir}}
>> > 
>> > %{__rm} is intentional here.
> 
> We don't want to keep hundreds of obsolete rms - nobody checks such
> commands on upgrade unless build fails.

OK, so I've brought it back and additionally:
%prep	%{__rm} po/io.po

>> And if we want so - why not plain rm without -f?
> 
> %{__rm} is defined as "rm --interactive=never".

OK, this is the first PLD spec file I've seen using __rm macro. And I
see it's over 21 months old now, this should go into some guideline.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar at pld-linux.org>


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov 16 11:56:51 2010
From: glen at pld-linux.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elan_Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:56:51 +0200
Subject: th - package cleanup
Message-ID: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>



(i don't read -pl list, so don't bother replying to me there)

the following list of packages were removed from th-main (still available in th-obsolete)

they were removed because the packages were renamed
or some other reason why .spec does not exist in cvs HEAD

Obsolete: adodb
Obsolete: apparmor-docs
Obsolete: bad-behavior
Obsolete: ccolamd
Obsolete: cogito
Obsolete: colamd
Obsolete: cups-pdf
Obsolete: ejabberd-logdb
Obsolete: ejabberd-mysql-logdb
Obsolete: gmpc-plugin-autoplaylist
Obsolete: gnu.getopt
Obsolete: icedove-lang-pl
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-ca
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-cs
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-da
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-de
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-el
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-es
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-fi
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-fr
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-hu
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-it
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-ja
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-ka
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-ku
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-lt
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-pl
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-ro
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-ru
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-sk
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-sl
Obsolete: iceweasel-lang-sv
Obsolete: jakarta-bcel
Obsolete: java_cup
Obsolete: jpgraph
Obsolete: ksymoops
Obsolete: libspiff
Obsolete: magma
Obsolete: multisync-msynctool
Obsolete: mysqldumpgrants
Obsolete: mysqltoolkit
Obsolete: perl-Games-Chess-Referee
Obsolete: perl-ack
Obsolete: pgpool
Obsolete: php-ncurses
Obsolete: python-gammu
Obsolete: python3-bsddb3
Obsolete: python3-jinja2
Obsolete: qdox
Obsolete: rsyslog5
Obsolete: scsiutils
Obsolete: svrcore-devel
Obsolete: tcl-bwidget
Obsolete: wsdl4j
Obsolete: xfce4-dict-plugin
Obsolete: xfce4-screenshooter-plugin
Obsolete: xfce4-xmms-plugin

-- 
glen



From wrobell at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov 16 12:00:25 2010
From: wrobell at pld-linux.org (Artur Wroblewski)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:00:25 +0000
Subject: th - package cleanup
In-Reply-To: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>
References: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimx2UQZmEB8aUt80zwF7pJe7hyg1MECQT6jZ=aR@mail.gmail.com>

2010/11/16 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org>:
[...]
> the following list of packages were removed from th-main (still available in th-obsolete)
>
> they were removed because the packages were renamed
> or some other reason why .spec does not exist in cvs HEAD

as well, i would remove all gtk+/glib 1.x stuff if it is still there.

regards,

w


From pawelz at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov 16 12:14:41 2010
From: pawelz at pld-linux.org (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Zuzelski)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:14:41 +0100
Subject: th - package cleanup
In-Reply-To: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>
References: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20101116111441.GA4666@davabel.touk.pl>

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> (i don't read -pl list, so don't bother replying to me there)
> 
> the following list of packages were removed from th-main (still available in th-obsolete)
> 
> they were removed because the packages were renamed
> or some other reason why .spec does not exist in cvs HEAD

This one was wrong:

> Obsolete: perl-ack
$ ipoldek -s/dev/null desc perl-ack | grep Source
Source package: ack-1.92-2.src.rpm
$ cv ack.spec | grep Status
File: ack.spec          Status: Up-to-date
$ ls -l ack.spec
-rw-r--r-- 1 z users 3269 Apr 11  2010 ack.spec

-- 
Regards,
Pawe?


From glen at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov 16 12:34:28 2010
From: glen at pld-linux.org (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Elan_Ruusam=E4e?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:34:28 +0200
Subject: th - package cleanup
In-Reply-To: <20101116111441.GA4666@davabel.touk.pl>
References: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>
	<20101116111441.GA4666@davabel.touk.pl>
Message-ID: <4CE26C44.7010906@pld-linux.org>

  On 16.11.2010 13:14, Pawe? Zuzelski wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
>> (i don't read -pl list, so don't bother replying to me there)
>>
>> the following list of packages were removed from th-main (still available in th-obsolete)
>>
>> they were removed because the packages were renamed
>> or some other reason why .spec does not exist in cvs HEAD
> This one was wrong:
>
>> Obsolete: perl-ack
> $ ipoldek -s/dev/null desc perl-ack | grep Source
> Source package: ack-1.92-2.src.rpm
> $ cv ack.spec | grep Status
> File: ack.spec          Status: Up-to-date
> $ ls -l ack.spec
> -rw-r--r-- 1 z users 3269 Apr 11  2010 ack.spec
>

it is not wrong.

it was removed because the package that was on ftp was built from 
removed spec:

http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/packages/perl-ack/perl-ack.spec

you may resend it from proper package,
but most likely no need, the bin.rpm built from ack.spec is likely 
present on ftp

-- 
glen



From pawelz at pld-linux.org  Tue Nov 16 12:37:57 2010
From: pawelz at pld-linux.org (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Zuzelski)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:37:57 +0100
Subject: th - package cleanup
In-Reply-To: <4CE26C44.7010906@pld-linux.org>
References: <4CE26373.90803@pld-linux.org>
	<20101116111441.GA4666@davabel.touk.pl>
	<4CE26C44.7010906@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <20101116113757.GB4666@davabel.touk.pl>

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Elan Ruusam?e wrote:
> it is not wrong.
> 
> it was removed because the package that was on ftp was built from 
> removed spec:
> 
> http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/packages/perl-ack/perl-ack.spec

Ah, ok, thanks for explanation.

> you may resend it from proper package,
> but most likely no need, the bin.rpm built from ack.spec is likely 
> present on ftp

I have resent it just to be sure.

-- 
Regards,
Pawe?


From lisu87 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 16 13:46:31 2010
From: lisu87 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBMaXNvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:46:31 +0100
Subject: sdlmame -> sdlhazemd
Message-ID: <4CE27D27.7070507@gmail.com>

cp -r please


From adamg at pld-linux.org  Thu Nov 18 21:46:53 2010
From: adamg at pld-linux.org (Adam Golebiowski)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:46:53 +0100
Subject: sdlmame -> sdlhazemd
In-Reply-To: <4CE27D27.7070507@gmail.com>
References: <4CE27D27.7070507@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101118204653.GA29685@agmk.net>

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:46:31PM +0100, Micha? Lisowski wrote:
> cp -r please

done

-- 
adamg


From patrys at pld-linux.org  Sat Nov 20 13:03:03 2010
From: patrys at pld-linux.org (Patryk Zawadzki)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:03:03 +0100
Subject: packages: dotnet-evolution-sharp/dotnet-evolution-sharp.spec,
	dotnet-evolut...
In-Reply-To: <packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.3@pld-linux.org>
References: <packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_dotnet_evolution_sharp.spec.1.49@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.2@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.3@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikyTmCeHuJGOjHi-NraCXxYZXRbEjvACOGk5yP2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, lisu <lisu at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> Author: lisu ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Date: Fri Nov 19 07:49:44 2010 GMT
> Module: packages ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Tag: HEAD
> ---- Log message:
> - reverse, 0.21.x goes to DEVEL
> - rel 3, epoch 1

When you bump Epoch, fix the Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
lines. Current packages are broken.

-- 
Patryk Zawadzki


From wolf.pld at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 15:19:23 2010
From: wolf.pld at gmail.com (Bartosz Taudul)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:19:23 +0100
Subject: packages: dotnet-evolution-sharp/dotnet-evolution-sharp.spec,
	dotnet-evolut...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikyTmCeHuJGOjHi-NraCXxYZXRbEjvACOGk5yP2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_dotnet_evolution_sharp.spec.1.49@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.2@pld-linux.org>
	<packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.3@pld-linux.org>
	<AANLkTikyTmCeHuJGOjHi-NraCXxYZXRbEjvACOGk5yP2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=86Ht-PsCNvFgGiJYJJsMGw00=QmpQG4MTsO0w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, lisu <lisu at pld-linux.org> wrote:
>> Author: lisu ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Date: Fri Nov 19 07:49:44 2010 GMT
>> Module: packages ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Tag: HEAD
>> ---- Log message:
>> - reverse, 0.21.x goes to DEVEL
>> - rel 3, epoch 1
>
> When you bump Epoch, fix the Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
> lines. Current packages are broken.
>
> --
> Patryk Zawadzki

Zapomnia?o ci si? wpisa? Stallmana i Torvaldsa do CC.

wolf


From caleb at pld-linux.org  Sat Nov 20 15:35:18 2010
From: caleb at pld-linux.org (Caleb Maclennan)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:35:18 +0200
Subject: Future direction of official PLD website (Was: A couple questions
	about the website)
Message-ID: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>

2010/11/11 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org>:
> there actually exists dokuwiki install:
> http://www.pld-linux.org/dokuwiki/
>
> currently it uses pldusers.org theme, so if somebody would
> create theme similar to current www in dokuwiki format,
> i'd finish the data migration and replace the moinmoun install
>
> moinmoin install is outdated, unmaintained (at least in pld side),
> dokuwiki i use at least myself, so i could improve and tech support it.

Does anybody have any ideas or strong opinions about MoinMoin vs.
DokuWiki? I have none. Both upstream projects seem to be pretty well
supported and updated, although DokuWiki seems to have a smaller
community and periodic spells of stagnation. In it's favor Elan knows
it already and is willing to help support it. It seems like either one
can be adapted for our needs.

My original thought was to add the current state of affairs including
the modified moinmoin source that currently powers the site to cvs and
then work through upgrading moinmoin keeping appropriate
modifications, then get all the broken bits working and start cleaning
up the site from there. Future site maintenance would then be easier
to continue or tweak by anyone with cvs access. However, the moinmoin
install is so old (modified 1.3.3) that it looks like upgrading
through 5 major releases will be as much work as switching to another
engine if that's what folks want to see. Also the file structure has
changed significantly several times, making cvs and it's lack of
move/rename functions a cumbersome way to deal with this. Perhaps
subversion or git would be a better option to manage whatever site
source code we end up with?

Additionally, can someone explain what is up with pld-users.org? It
looks like this was an attempt to actually do what pld-linux.org ought
to have been doing while it was actually stagnating. It seems like
some of the best content there should be pulled over, and the parts of
it that are now themselves out of date should be jettisoned. Thoughts
on this?

Caleb


From marcin.rybak at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 16:54:24 2010
From: marcin.rybak at gmail.com (Marcin Rybak)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:54:24 +0100
Subject: Future direction of official PLD website (Was: A couple questions
	about the website)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimnM216RcUTuWpB27Jny95hZ9aWmO3fG59PYFgA@mail.gmail.com>

2010/11/20 Caleb Maclennan <caleb at pld-linux.org>

> 2010/11/11 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org>:
> > there actually exists dokuwiki install:
> > http://www.pld-linux.org/dokuwiki/
> >
> > currently it uses pldusers.org theme, so if somebody would
> > create theme similar to current www in dokuwiki format,
> > i'd finish the data migration and replace the moinmoun install
> >
> > moinmoin install is outdated, unmaintained (at least in pld side),
> > dokuwiki i use at least myself, so i could improve and tech support it.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas or strong opinions about MoinMoin vs.
> DokuWiki? I have none. Both upstream projects seem to be pretty well
> supported and updated, although DokuWiki seems to have a smaller
> community and periodic spells of stagnation. In it's favor Elan knows
> it already and is willing to help support it. It seems like either one
> can be adapted for our needs.
>

I don't know if I have a law to say something :) - but, I'm not sure if
dokuwiki with revisions and recent changes is what should appear on PLD
site. IMO it is better for guides (like docs.pld-users.org was)


> Additionally, can someone explain what is up with pld-users.org? It
> looks like this was an attempt to actually do what pld-linux.org ought
> to have been doing while it was actually stagnating. It seems like
> some of the best content there should be pulled over, and the parts of
> it that are now themselves out of date should be jettisoned. Thoughts
> on this?
>

AFAIR pld-users was for users :), to make them chance to support pld, share
their own content and experiences. They do not have to ask for right to
change sth, and if something is outdated, everybody can change it. BTW - if
any content should be copied or migrated - authors should allow to do it (I
don't see any regulations at website, so it have to be done with polish
copyright), there is some of my content (marti) - you can easly use it ;)

regards,
---
Marcin Rybak
http://marcinrybak.com


From jan.palus at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 17:25:15 2010
From: jan.palus at gmail.com (Jan Palus)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:25:15 +0100
Subject: rpm fails on upgrade
Message-ID: <20101120162515.GA21981@cukinia>

Recently I added small patch to python-paramiko and built for testing, but
upgrading failed with:

error: unpacking of archive failed on file
/usr/share/python2.7/site-packages/paramiko-1.7.6-py2.7.egg-info: cpio:
rename failed - Is a directory

Package from ftp contains directory /usr/share/python2.7/site-packages/paramiko-1.7.6-py2.7.egg-info
which in new package turned into plain file (I'm not python guru so I
have no clue why it happened at all). But generally speaking it is
possible for directory to change into file with the same name and
upgrade still should be possible. Is it my lack of knowledge or is it
rpm bug?


From n3npq at mac.com  Sat Nov 20 17:35:59 2010
From: n3npq at mac.com (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:35:59 -0500
Subject: rpm fails on upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20101120162515.GA21981@cukinia>
References: <20101120162515.GA21981@cukinia>
Message-ID: <AAAED81A-F489-4802-B137-B61F625E054D@mac.com>


On Nov 20, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Jan Palus wrote:

> Recently I added small patch to python-paramiko and built for testing, but
> upgrading failed with:
> 
> error: unpacking of archive failed on file
> /usr/share/python2.7/site-packages/paramiko-1.7.6-py2.7.egg-info: cpio:
> rename failed - Is a directory
> 
> Package from ftp contains directory /usr/share/python2.7/site-packages/paramiko-1.7.6-py2.7.egg-info
> which in new package turned into plain file (I'm not python guru so I
> have no clue why it happened at all). But generally speaking it is
> possible for directory to change into file with the same name and
> upgrade still should be possible. Is it my lack of knowledge or is it
> rpm bug?

RPM cannot just replace a directory with a symlink.

One can add a %pretrans to rename the directory and
accomplish the tranform between directory <-> symlink.

That has been described many times and many places,
most recently as a question & answer (with an explicit
example test case for regression testing) at
	http://launchpad.net/rpm

If you need additional information, try asking again at
	http://launchpad.net/rpm

hth

73 de Jeff



From sparky at pld-linux.org  Sat Nov 20 17:56:28 2010
From: sparky at pld-linux.org (Przemyslaw Iskra)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:56:28 +0100
Subject: Future direction of official PLD website (Was: A couple
	questions about the website)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101120165628.GA21239@pld-linux.org>

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 04:35:18PM +0200, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
> 2010/11/11 Elan Ruusam?e <glen at pld-linux.org>:
> > there actually exists dokuwiki install:
> > http://www.pld-linux.org/dokuwiki/
> >
> > currently it uses pldusers.org theme, so if somebody would
> > create theme similar to current www in dokuwiki format,
> > i'd finish the data migration and replace the moinmoun install
> >
> > moinmoin install is outdated, unmaintained (at least in pld side),
> > dokuwiki i use at least myself, so i could improve and tech support it.
> 
> Does anybody have any ideas or strong opinions about MoinMoin vs.
> DokuWiki? I have none. Both upstream projects seem to be pretty well
> supported and updated, although DokuWiki seems to have a smaller
> community and periodic spells of stagnation. In it's favor Elan knows
> it already and is willing to help support it. It seems like either one
> can be adapted for our needs.

How about XML sources with static (server-side, run from cron) XSLT
processing ? Seems like XX century method, but that's what would make me
happy. Maybe some modified docbook ?

Vim anyone ?

-- 
 ____    sparky  --  Przemyslaw  ................ LANG...Pl,Ca,Es,En
/____) ___  ___  _ _ || Iskra   : WWW . http://ppcrcd.pld-linux.org/
\____\| -_)'___| ||^'||//\\//   : WWW2 ............ http://rsget.pl/
(____/||   (_-_|_||  ||\\ ||    : eMail ..... <sparky at pld-linux.org>


From caleb at pld-linux.org  Sat Nov 20 17:56:51 2010
From: caleb at pld-linux.org (Caleb Maclennan)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:56:51 +0200
Subject: Future direction of official PLD website (Was: A couple questions
	about the website)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnM216RcUTuWpB27Jny95hZ9aWmO3fG59PYFgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnM216RcUTuWpB27Jny95hZ9aWmO3fG59PYFgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVSw=wGyCN5Ays6Qyt=4+4aAf3DfGyq5wv+-E9@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 17:54, Marcin Rybak <marcin.rybak at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know if I have a law to say something :) - but, I'm not sure if
> dokuwiki with revisions and recent changes is what should appear on PLD
> site. IMO it is better for guides (like docs.pld-users.org was)

I hear your concern about the nature of the site root pages, but the
current site is built on a wiki engine and unless somebody has a clear
idea of what should make up the site root instead, I don't see any
reason not to keep going that direction. We could use some combination
of ACL's and namespaces to not show things like the revision history
or edit options for root pages to non-commiters, but still encourage
the community to help maintain the site.

The other options would be to code up something by hand or bring a
different kind of CMS into the mix, such as drupal. I'd be happy to
move that route too and there would be some advantages. Thoughts?

> AFAIR pld-users was for users :), to make them chance to support pld, share
> their own content and experiences. They do not have to ask for right to
> change sth, and if something is outdated, everybody can change it.

I think this was the idea behind making the main site a wiki in the
first place, but with the user system broken, it's fallen a few years
out of date itself.

If we do continue with a wiki as the primary CMS, we could easily have
a users name-space so that people can contribute new content and since
it would be the same format, we could easily promote this content to
being top level without needing to reformat, relink everything such as
if the site was managed with drupal or another CMS.

Caleb


From qwiat at o2.pl  Sat Nov 20 20:31:24 2010
From: qwiat at o2.pl (Pawel Kwiatkowski)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:31:24 +0100
Subject: Future direction of official PLD website (Was: A couple
	questions about the website)
In-Reply-To: <20101120165628.GA21239@pld-linux.org>
References: <AANLkTim=EkyytgOYVNmrv56-OScZ_Pyc3Jb=nd0RnCzk@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101120165628.GA21239@pld-linux.org>
Message-ID: <1290281484.9085.5.camel@zetor>

Dnia 2010-11-20, sob o godzinie 17:56 +0100, Przemyslaw Iskra pisze:
[...]
> How about XML sources with static (server-side, run from cron) XSLT
> processing ? Seems like XX century method, but that's what would make me
> happy. Maybe some modified docbook ?

Writing aricles in docbook is realy PITA. Just take look at our offical
documetation. There is noone to upgrade or wite a new chapters.
PLD-Users wiki i bigger and much more up to date than offical
documentayion.



-- 
Pawe? Kwiatkowski
e-mail/jid: qwiat(at)pld-linux(dot)org



From lisu87 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 13:34:41 2010
From: lisu87 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBMaXNvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:34:41 +0100
Subject: packages: dotnet-evolution-sharp/dotnet-evolution-sharp.spec,
	dotnet-evolut...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikyTmCeHuJGOjHi-NraCXxYZXRbEjvACOGk5yP2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_dotnet_evolution_sharp.spec.1.49@pld-linux.org>	<packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.2@pld-linux.org>	<packages_dotnet_evolution_sharp_evolution_data_server_228.patch.1.3@pld-linux.org>
	<AANLkTikyTmCeHuJGOjHi-NraCXxYZXRbEjvACOGk5yP2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <sig.494181320c.4CE911E1.8010707@gmail.com>

W dniu 20.11.2010 13:03, Patryk Zawadzki pisze:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, lisu<lisu at pld-linux.org>  wrote:
>> Author: lisu                         Date: Fri Nov 19 07:49:44 2010 GMT
>> Module: packages                      Tag: HEAD
>> ---- Log message:
>> - reverse, 0.21.x goes to DEVEL
>> - rel 3, epoch 1
> When you bump Epoch, fix the Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
> lines. Current packages are broken.
>
Done. Thanks.


From kamil.listy at klecza.pl  Sun Nov 21 19:24:46 2010
From: kamil.listy at klecza.pl (Kamil Dziedzic)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:24:46 +0100
Subject: mysql refuse to start after upgrade to mawk-1.3.4-0.20100625.1
Message-ID: <201011211924.59980.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>

Hi.

After upgrade-dist to th-ready I got:

#/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql restart
Error: datadir specified in /var/lib/mysql/mysqld.conf should be 
/var/lib/mysql/mysqldb/db
 MySQL can't be run.

Downgrade to mawk-1.3.3-33.x86_64 fixed problem. 

-- 
Regards, Kamil Dziedzic
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From glen at pld-linux.org  Mon Nov 22 09:33:21 2010
From: glen at pld-linux.org (=?UTF-8?B?RWxhbiBSdXVzYW3DpGU=?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:33:21 +0200
Subject: mysql refuse to start after upgrade to mawk-1.3.4-0.20100625.1
In-Reply-To: <201011211924.59980.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
References: <201011211924.59980.kamil.listy@klecza.pl>
Message-ID: <4CEA2AD1.9030404@pld-linux.org>

  On 21.11.2010 20:24, Kamil Dziedzic wrote:
> Hi.
>
> After upgrade-dist to th-ready I got:
>
> #/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql restart
> Error: datadir specified in /var/lib/mysql/mysqld.conf should be
> /var/lib/mysql/mysqldb/db
>   MySQL can't be run.
>
> Downgrade to mawk-1.3.3-33.x86_64 fixed problem.

1. report your bugs to bugs.pld-linux.org
2. provide contents of /etc/mysql/clusters.conf in bugreport


-- 
glen



From arekm at maven.pl  Tue Nov 23 22:45:47 2010
From: arekm at maven.pl (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:45:47 +0100
Subject: Th: package fixes needed
Message-ID: <201011232245.47974.arekm@maven.pl>


Please take a look at
http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~pldth/main-ready-test.txt
and fix (+ send to builders or ping me) packages that you care about.

Unfixed packages will be deleted at nearest move from ready to main.

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/


From udvzsolt at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 09:45:50 2010
From: udvzsolt at gmail.com (Zsolt Udvari)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:45:50 +0100
Subject: Th: package fixes needed
In-Reply-To: <201011232245.47974.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <201011232245.47974.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikwFbTdix-a+wUGrwSPUQT-DJSiGJ9itLi2No4u@mail.gmail.com>

Wesnoth fixed, need rebuild (after SDL).


2010/11/23 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm at maven.pl>

>
> Please take a look at
> http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~pldth/main-ready-test.txt
> and fix (+ send to builders or ping me) packages that you care about.
>
> Unfixed packages will be deleted at nearest move from ready to main.
>
> --
> Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz        PLD/Linux Team
> arekm / maven.pl            http://ftp.pld-linux.org/
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
>


From lisu87 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 10:06:56 2010
From: lisu87 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBMaXNvd3NraQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:06:56 +0100
Subject: Th: package fixes needed
In-Reply-To: <201011232245.47974.arekm@maven.pl>
References: <201011232245.47974.arekm@maven.pl>
Message-ID: <4CECD5B0.3030202@gmail.com>

W dniu 23.11.2010 22:45, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz pisze:
> Please take a look at
> http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~pldth/main-ready-test.txt
> and fix (+ send to builders or ping me) packages that you care about.
>
> Unfixed packages will be deleted at nearest move from ready to main.
>
cacti fixed