From zawadaa at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 14:04:44 2022
From: zawadaa at gmail.com (Andrzej Zawadzki)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 14:04:44 +0200
Subject: KDE - all form test
Message-ID: <4710ab32-a134-5fab-6cb5-8ec614e80f35@gmail.com>

   Hi!

   My KDE is broken after upgrade (plasma-shell, basically useless). How
   this looks on yours computers? ;-)

   --

   Andrzej


From masko at ipipan.waw.pl  Fri Jul  1 14:16:54 2022
From: masko at ipipan.waw.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Ma=C5=9Bko?=)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 14:16:54 +0200
Subject: KDE - all form test
In-Reply-To: <4710ab32-a134-5fab-6cb5-8ec614e80f35@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93bfc5c8-f164-41da-8336-cbfc1d6a3dd2@email.android.com>

   From which version did you upgrade? Works without major problems for
   me.
   --
   Pozdrawiam. ?ukasz Ma?ko

   1 lip 2022 14:04 Andrzej Zawadzki <zawadaa at gmail.com> napisa?(a):

        Hi!
        My KDE is broken after upgrade (plasma-shell, basically useless).
     How
        this looks on yours computers? ;-)
        --
        Andrzej
     _______________________________________________
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From zawadaa at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 14:31:04 2022
From: zawadaa at gmail.com (Andrzej Zawadzki)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 14:31:04 +0200
Subject: KDE - all form test
In-Reply-To: <93bfc5c8-f164-41da-8336-cbfc1d6a3dd2@email.android.com>
References: <4710ab32-a134-5fab-6cb5-8ec614e80f35@gmail.com>
 <93bfc5c8-f164-41da-8336-cbfc1d6a3dd2@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CANC7GkyH6tVcoTDd5ve9fziWG9GmDyuwizWg3sDf8wmop2dNZg@mail.gmail.com>

OK Qt5 was to fresh. I found in logs:


*plasmashell[2012]: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.4) with this
library (5.15.5)*

Hmm, rebuild is needed?

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 2:19 PM ?ukasz Ma?ko <masko at ipipan.waw.pl> wrote:

>    From which version did you upgrade? Works without major problems for
>    me.
>    --
>    Pozdrawiam. ?ukasz Ma?ko
>
>    1 lip 2022 14:04 Andrzej Zawadzki <zawadaa at gmail.com> napisa?(a):
>
>         Hi!
>         My KDE is broken after upgrade (plasma-shell, basically useless).
>      How
>         this looks on yours computers? ;-)
>         --
>         Andrzej
>      _______________________________________________
>      pld-devel-en mailing list
>      pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
>      http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
>


From atler at pld-linux.org  Fri Jul  1 17:37:30 2022
From: atler at pld-linux.org (Jan Palus)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 17:37:30 +0200
Subject: KDE - all form test
In-Reply-To: <CANC7GkyH6tVcoTDd5ve9fziWG9GmDyuwizWg3sDf8wmop2dNZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4710ab32-a134-5fab-6cb5-8ec614e80f35@gmail.com>
 <93bfc5c8-f164-41da-8336-cbfc1d6a3dd2@email.android.com>
 <CANC7GkyH6tVcoTDd5ve9fziWG9GmDyuwizWg3sDf8wmop2dNZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20220701153730.ymu7ffqapumzkpkb@pine.lan>

On 01.07.2022 14:31, Andrzej Zawadzki wrote:
> OK Qt5 was to fresh. I found in logs:
> 
> 
> *plasmashell[2012]: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.4) with this
> library (5.15.5)*
> Hmm, rebuild is needed?

`rpm -qa 'Qt5*' | grep -F 5.15.4` will likely be the reason. Needs
upgrade to 5.15.5 as well.

> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 2:19 PM ?ukasz Ma?ko <masko at ipipan.waw.pl> wrote:
> 
> >    From which version did you upgrade? Works without major problems for
> >    me.
> >    --
> >    Pozdrawiam. ?ukasz Ma?ko
> >
> >    1 lip 2022 14:04 Andrzej Zawadzki <zawadaa at gmail.com> napisa?(a):
> >
> >         Hi!
> >         My KDE is broken after upgrade (plasma-shell, basically useless).
> >      How
> >         this looks on yours computers? ;-)
> >         --
> >         Andrzej
> >      _______________________________________________
> >      pld-devel-en mailing list
> >      pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> >      http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
> > _______________________________________________
> > pld-devel-en mailing list
> > pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> > http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en


From ed at yen.ipipan.waw.pl  Fri Jul  1 19:22:42 2022
From: ed at yen.ipipan.waw.pl (Peri Noid)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 19:22:42 +0200
Subject: KDE - all form test
In-Reply-To: <CANC7GkyH6tVcoTDd5ve9fziWG9GmDyuwizWg3sDf8wmop2dNZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4710ab32-a134-5fab-6cb5-8ec614e80f35@gmail.com>
 <93bfc5c8-f164-41da-8336-cbfc1d6a3dd2@email.android.com>
 <CANC7GkyH6tVcoTDd5ve9fziWG9GmDyuwizWg3sDf8wmop2dNZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12010522.O9o76ZdvQC@laptok>

Dnia pi?tek, 1 lipca 2022 14:31:04 CEST Andrzej Zawadzki pisze:
> OK Qt5 was to fresh. I found in logs:
> 
> 
> *plasmashell[2012]: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.4) with this
> library (5.15.5)*
> 
> Hmm, rebuild is needed?

I did a full downgrade of Qt5 to 5.15.4 and it works - so yes, the problem is 
somewhere there. We're still missing some of Qt5 packets in thre 5.15.5 
version to be able to upgrade everything to this version. At least now.
-- 
?ukasz Ma?ko                                                            _o)
Lukasz.Masko(at)ipipan.waw.pl                                           /\\
Registered Linux User #61028                                           _\_V
Ubuntu: staroafryka?skie s?owo oznaczaj?ce "Nie umiem zainstalowa? Debiana"





From drmarwat at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 19:46:23 2022
From: drmarwat at gmail.com (Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 22:46:23 +0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages

I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
related packages.

How to fix this?

Thanks ,


From j.rekorajski at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 11:32:24 2022
From: j.rekorajski at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jan_R=C4=99korajski?=)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 11:32:24 +0200
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:46 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat
<drmarwat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages
>
> I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
> related packages.
>
> How to fix this?

Use install instead of upgrade for held (kernel in this case) packages.

The hold in poldek was added to prevent a case when a new kernel would
have problems starting. Upgrade could possibly leave you without a
working kernel.
Hold will not prevent uninstalling, but make sure that new kernel
boots before doing so :)

-- 
Jan R?korajski | SysAdm | PLD/Linux | http://www.pld-linux.org/
baggins<at>pld-linux.org


From drmarwat at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 16:26:30 2022
From: drmarwat at gmail.com (Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 19:26:30 +0500
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks but that did not help either

as can be seen from this log
poldek:/all-avail> upgrade *
error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
Nothing to do
poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64 kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64
kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64
error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
Nothing to do
poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64

error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
Nothing to do


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:32 PM Jan R?korajski <j.rekorajski at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:46 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat
> <drmarwat at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages
> >
> > I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
> > related packages.
> >
> > How to fix this?
>
> Use install instead of upgrade for held (kernel in this case) packages.
>
> The hold in poldek was added to prevent a case when a new kernel would
> have problems starting. Upgrade could possibly leave you without a
> working kernel.
> Hold will not prevent uninstalling, but make sure that new kernel
> boots before doing so :)
>
> --
> Jan R?korajski | SysAdm | PLD/Linux | http://www.pld-linux.org/
> baggins<at>pld-linux.org
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
>


-- 
Dr.Saleem Khan Marwat
Abbottabad
Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
Pakistan
Cell # +92333-5393854
WhatsApp # +92333-5393854
Email: drmarwat at gmail.com
Web:  http://saleem-khan.blogspot.com
Registered GNU/Linux User # 413133
Since Aug 2003


From atler at pld-linux.org  Tue Jul 12 16:39:52 2022
From: atler at pld-linux.org (Jan Palus)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 16:39:52 +0200
Subject: your mail
In-Reply-To: <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20220712143952.vag4naoi2qcsjzaj@pine.grzadka>

On 12.07.2022 19:26, Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat wrote:
> Thanks but that did not help either
> 
> as can be seen from this log
> poldek:/all-avail> upgrade *
> error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> Nothing to do
> poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64 kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> Nothing to do
> poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> 
> error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> Nothing to do

You may try `just-install` alias in interactive session or `--nohold`
command line parameter but I strongly recommend `man poldek` and `man
poldek.conf` instead.

> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:32 PM Jan R?korajski <j.rekorajski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:46 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat
> > <drmarwat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages
> > >
> > > I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
> > > related packages.
> > >
> > > How to fix this?
> >
> > Use install instead of upgrade for held (kernel in this case) packages.
> >
> > The hold in poldek was added to prevent a case when a new kernel would
> > have problems starting. Upgrade could possibly leave you without a
> > working kernel.
> > Hold will not prevent uninstalling, but make sure that new kernel
> > boots before doing so :)
> >
> > --
> > Jan R?korajski | SysAdm | PLD/Linux | http://www.pld-linux.org/
> > baggins<at>pld-linux.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > pld-devel-en mailing list
> > pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> > http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr.Saleem Khan Marwat
> Abbottabad
> Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
> Pakistan
> Cell # +92333-5393854
> WhatsApp # +92333-5393854
> Email: drmarwat at gmail.com
> Web:  http://saleem-khan.blogspot.com
> Registered GNU/Linux User # 413133
> Since Aug 2003
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en


From atler at pld-linux.org  Tue Jul 12 16:41:20 2022
From: atler at pld-linux.org (Jan Palus)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 16:41:20 +0200
Subject: your mail
In-Reply-To: <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20220712144120.texpbkieujrvqlh3@pine.grzadka>

On 12.07.2022 19:26, Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat wrote:
> Thanks but that did not help either
> 
> as can be seen from this log
> poldek:/all-avail> upgrade *
> error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> Nothing to do
> poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64 kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> Nothing to do
> poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> 
> error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> Nothing to do

And please do post such questions on pld-users-en. Thanks.

> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:32 PM Jan R?korajski <j.rekorajski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:46 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat
> > <drmarwat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages
> > >
> > > I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
> > > related packages.
> > >
> > > How to fix this?
> >
> > Use install instead of upgrade for held (kernel in this case) packages.
> >
> > The hold in poldek was added to prevent a case when a new kernel would
> > have problems starting. Upgrade could possibly leave you without a
> > working kernel.
> > Hold will not prevent uninstalling, but make sure that new kernel
> > boots before doing so :)
> >
> > --
> > Jan R?korajski | SysAdm | PLD/Linux | http://www.pld-linux.org/
> > baggins<at>pld-linux.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > pld-devel-en mailing list
> > pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> > http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr.Saleem Khan Marwat
> Abbottabad
> Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
> Pakistan
> Cell # +92333-5393854
> WhatsApp # +92333-5393854
> Email: drmarwat at gmail.com
> Web:  http://saleem-khan.blogspot.com
> Registered GNU/Linux User # 413133
> Since Aug 2003
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en


From drmarwat at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 16:44:08 2022
From: drmarwat at gmail.com (Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 19:44:08 +0500
Subject: your mail
In-Reply-To: <20220712144120.texpbkieujrvqlh3@pine.grzadka>
References: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20220712144120.texpbkieujrvqlh3@pine.grzadka>
Message-ID: <CAOV1EpFaAsGKmBzoiSRS9YiZUDWo2R=0j5ni8paq_6zgCZBcPA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry if I posted it in wrong place but I thought I posted it in poldek
English section

And strangely now there is no more kernel 5.18 available on th , it has
disappeared from packages available for upgrade

So I'm currently on 5.17

Thanks

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 7:41 PM Jan Palus <atler at pld-linux.org> wrote:

> On 12.07.2022 19:26, Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat wrote:
> > Thanks but that did not help either
> >
> > as can be seen from this log
> > poldek:/all-avail> upgrade *
> > error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held
> package
> > Nothing to do
> > poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> > kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64 kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> > kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> > error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held
> package
> > Nothing to do
> > poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
> >
> > error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
> > Nothing to do
>
> And please do post such questions on pld-users-en. Thanks.
>
> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:32 PM Jan R?korajski <j.rekorajski at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:46 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat
> > > <drmarwat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages
> > > >
> > > > I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
> > > > related packages.
> > > >
> > > > How to fix this?
> > >
> > > Use install instead of upgrade for held (kernel in this case) packages.
> > >
> > > The hold in poldek was added to prevent a case when a new kernel would
> > > have problems starting. Upgrade could possibly leave you without a
> > > working kernel.
> > > Hold will not prevent uninstalling, but make sure that new kernel
> > > boots before doing so :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan R?korajski | SysAdm | PLD/Linux | http://www.pld-linux.org/
> > > baggins<at>pld-linux.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > pld-devel-en mailing list
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> >
> >
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From drmarwat at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 16:45:37 2022
From: drmarwat at gmail.com (Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 19:45:37 +0500
Subject: your mail
In-Reply-To: <CAOV1EpFaAsGKmBzoiSRS9YiZUDWo2R=0j5ni8paq_6zgCZBcPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOV1EpFhr5m_o+SXfWB7d9J3m464iLXdEw_yua9pRjYGCvfsHw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKY5yHw+PcdJBwhFuSCuuKFbsA004ZjKnX+KLjx8-sQzJD__Yg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOV1EpHcLr46JF8WTDTtVDbjP9vDzSFDYCbJHr9s5LLHp3qmLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20220712144120.texpbkieujrvqlh3@pine.grzadka>
 <CAOV1EpFaAsGKmBzoiSRS9YiZUDWo2R=0j5ni8paq_6zgCZBcPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOV1EpGVSSDpOr9B5FS9sfrfO=WziGeYbs3evNxSqgUJWknzwg@mail.gmail.com>

My bad , I meant PLD English section

My mind is stuck with poldek so I wrote poldek by mistake

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 7:44 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat <drmarwat at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry if I posted it in wrong place but I thought I posted it in poldek
> English section
>
> And strangely now there is no more kernel 5.18 available on th , it has
> disappeared from packages available for upgrade
>
> So I'm currently on 5.17
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 7:41 PM Jan Palus <atler at pld-linux.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12.07.2022 19:26, Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat wrote:
>> > Thanks but that did not help either
>> >
>> > as can be seen from this log
>> > poldek:/all-avail> upgrade *
>> > error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held
>> package
>> > Nothing to do
>> > poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
>> > kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64 kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64
>> > kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64
>> > error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > error: kernel-drm-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > error: kernel-headers-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > error: kernel-sound-alsa-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held
>> package
>> > Nothing to do
>> > poldek:/all-avail> install kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64
>> >
>> > error: kernel-5.18.5-1.x86_64: refusing to upgrade held package
>> > Nothing to do
>>
>> And please do post such questions on pld-users-en. Thanks.
>>
>> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:32 PM Jan R?korajski <j.rekorajski at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 7:46 PM Saleem Ceann Khan Marwat
>> > > <drmarwat at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am having issue with kernel upgrade to 5.18 due to held packages
>> > > >
>> > > > I tried --nodeps --force but still can not upgrade any of the kernel
>> > > > related packages.
>> > > >
>> > > > How to fix this?
>> > >
>> > > Use install instead of upgrade for held (kernel in this case)
>> packages.
>> > >
>> > > The hold in poldek was added to prevent a case when a new kernel would
>> > > have problems starting. Upgrade could possibly leave you without a
>> > > working kernel.
>> > > Hold will not prevent uninstalling, but make sure that new kernel
>> > > boots before doing so :)
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Jan R?korajski | SysAdm | PLD/Linux | http://www.pld-linux.org/
>> > > baggins<at>pld-linux.org
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > pld-devel-en mailing list
>> > > pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
>> > > http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr.Saleem Khan Marwat
>> > Abbottabad
>> > Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
>> > Pakistan
>> > Cell # +92333-5393854
>> > WhatsApp # +92333-5393854
>> > Email: drmarwat at gmail.com
>> > Web:  http://saleem-khan.blogspot.com
>> > Registered GNU/Linux User # 413133
>> > Since Aug 2003
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > pld-devel-en mailing list
>> > pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
>> > http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
>> _______________________________________________
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>> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
>> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
>>
>


From qboosh at pld-linux.org  Thu Jul 14 16:38:33 2022
From: qboosh at pld-linux.org (Jakub Bogusz)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 16:38:33 +0200
Subject: RFC: shell completions policy change?
Message-ID: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>

As more and more packages are getting bash/zsh completions, separate
completions packages are becoming useless (harder to find, even not suggested).

My proposal:
1) add %{bash_compdir}, %{zsh_compdir} and maybe %{fish_compdir} (and upper
level) dirs to filesystem package and package bash/zsh[/fish] completion
files just with commands (existing bash-/zsh-[/fish-] packages to be merged and
obsoleted). [preferred]
Fortunately completion files don't have shebangs, which would generate
bash/zsh dependencies.

2) at least add Suggests for completions packages in packages with
commands to complete


-- 
Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/


From arekm at maven.pl  Thu Jul 14 18:04:13 2022
From: arekm at maven.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Arkadiusz_Mi=c5=9bkiewicz?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 18:04:13 +0200
Subject: RFC: shell completions policy change?
In-Reply-To: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <33dc3708-89cb-113d-6cbf-a89df2b4b444@maven.pl>

On 14.07.2022 16:38, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> As more and more packages are getting bash/zsh completions, separate
> completions packages are becoming useless (harder to find, even not suggested).
> 
> My proposal:
> 1) add %{bash_compdir}, %{zsh_compdir} and maybe %{fish_compdir} (and upper
> level) dirs to filesystem package and package bash/zsh[/fish] completion
> files just with commands (existing bash-/zsh-[/fish-] packages to be merged and
> obsoleted). [preferred]
> Fortunately completion files don't have shebangs, which would generate
> bash/zsh dependencies.

+1

> 
> 2) at least add Suggests for completions packages in packages with
> commands to complete

-1

-- 
Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz, arekm / ( maven.pl | pld-linux.org )



From baggins at pld-linux.org  Thu Jul 14 23:27:34 2022
From: baggins at pld-linux.org (Jan =?utf-8?Q?R=C4=99korajski?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 23:27:34 +0200
Subject: RFC: shell completions policy change?
In-Reply-To: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <YtCKRm8GoTNWr08T@tachikoma.lan>

On Thu, 14 Jul 2022, Jakub Bogusz wrote:

> As more and more packages are getting bash/zsh completions, separate
> completions packages are becoming useless (harder to find, even not suggested).
> 
> My proposal:
> 1) add %{bash_compdir}, %{zsh_compdir} and maybe %{fish_compdir} (and upper
> level) dirs to filesystem package and package bash/zsh[/fish] completion
> files just with commands (existing bash-/zsh-[/fish-] packages to be merged and
> obsoleted). [preferred]
> Fortunately completion files don't have shebangs, which would generate
> bash/zsh dependencies.

+1
Yes, it's a pain to find those subpackages.

-- 
Jan R?korajski                    | PLD/Linux
SysAdm | baggins<at>pld-linux.org | http://www.pld-linux.org/


From atler at pld-linux.org  Fri Jul 15 14:26:54 2022
From: atler at pld-linux.org (Jan Palus)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:26:54 +0200
Subject: RFC: shell completions policy change?
In-Reply-To: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>
References: <20220714143833.GB19541@stranger.qboosh.pl>
Message-ID: <20220715122654.jmz2snhwuy344fzp@pine.grzadka>

On 14.07.2022 16:38, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> As more and more packages are getting bash/zsh completions, separate
> completions packages are becoming useless (harder to find, even not suggested).
> 
> My proposal:
> 1) add %{bash_compdir}, %{zsh_compdir} and maybe %{fish_compdir} (and upper
> level) dirs to filesystem package and package bash/zsh[/fish] completion
> files just with commands (existing bash-/zsh-[/fish-] packages to be merged and
> obsoleted). [preferred]
> Fortunately completion files don't have shebangs, which would generate
> bash/zsh dependencies.

Never had an issue with finding completions but I'm all for less
subpackages so +1.

> 2) at least add Suggests for completions packages in packages with
> commands to complete
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jakub Bogusz    http://qboosh.pl/
> _______________________________________________
> pld-devel-en mailing list
> pld-devel-en at lists.pld-linux.org
> http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en


From baggins at pld-linux.org  Fri Jul 22 11:03:54 2022
From: baggins at pld-linux.org (Jan =?utf-8?Q?R=C4=99korajski?=)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:03:54 +0200
Subject: Qt packaging
Message-ID: <Ytpn+qaJvdDigmkk@starbug>

Can someone explain why are we using split sources/packages for Qt?

I want to add Qt6 and building from the monolythic source is soooo much
easier. No need for bootstrap, no intertwined build dependencies, just
configure -> build -> build docs -> install.

And unless there is a _very_ good reason to use split sources I'm just going
to add a single qt6 package that builds everything (we can still subpackage
bineries as we want them).

-- 
Jan R?korajski                    | PLD/Linux
SysAdm | baggins<at>pld-linux.org | http://www.pld-linux.org/


From atler at pld-linux.org  Fri Jul 22 11:43:16 2022
From: atler at pld-linux.org (Jan Palus)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:43:16 +0200
Subject: Qt packaging
In-Reply-To: <Ytpn+qaJvdDigmkk@starbug>
References: <Ytpn+qaJvdDigmkk@starbug>
Message-ID: <20220722094316.bwba2bwuldtgnxss@pine.grzadka>

On 22.07.2022 11:03, Jan R?korajski wrote:
> Can someone explain why are we using split sources/packages for Qt?
> 
> I want to add Qt6 and building from the monolythic source is soooo much
> easier. No need for bootstrap, no intertwined build dependencies, just
> configure -> build -> build docs -> install.
> 
> And unless there is a _very_ good reason to use split sources I'm just going
> to add a single qt6 package that builds everything (we can still subpackage
> bineries as we want them).

As long as each component is bcondized and there are no "to the exact
release" dependencies then I guess it's fine. Doing qtwebengine (and all
the other components) rebuild each time qtbase needs a small packaging
adjustment would be tough on arm, though I'd understand if nobody cared
about my use case.


From atler at pld-linux.org  Thu Jul 28 14:17:19 2022
From: atler at pld-linux.org (Jan Palus)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:17:19 +0200
Subject: Unable to install some old? packages
Message-ID: <20220728121719.zebdwckcgqy4p23n@pine.grzadka>

# rpm --initdb --root=/pld
# rpm --import --root=/pld PLD-3.0-Th-GPG-key.asc
# poldek --root=/pld -uv filesystem
...
Processing dependencies...
filesystem-4.1-15.x86_64 marks FHS-3.0-7.x86_64 (cap FHS >= 3.0)
There are 2 packages to install (1 marked by dependencies):
A FHS-3.0-7.x86_64  filesystem-4.1-15.x86_64
Need to get 83.4KB of archives (83.4KB to download).

[1/2] th::FHS-3.0-7.x86_64.rpm [50.4K (50.4K/s)]                                 
[2/2] th::filesystem-4.1-15.x86_64.rpm [33.0K (33.0K/s)]                                
FHS-3.0-7.x86_64.rpm: digests OK
filesystem-4.1-15.x86_64.rpm: digests OK
Executing pm-command.sh --upgrade -vh --root /home/users/jan/pld --define _check_dirname_deps 0...
Verifying...                          ################################# [100%]
Preparing...                          ################################# [100%]
	package filesystem-4.1-15.x86_64 does not verify: no digest

Any idea what else is needed? Without importing gpg key it works fine, but why
it doesn't with gpg key?