Ac stable on our doorstep?

[Adam Gołębiowski]

On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:23:28AM +0200, Marcin Król wrote:
> If I'll decide to release Ac now following things will happen:
> - kernel will be built from LINUX_2_6_16 branch

Seems like a good choice for me - when 2.6.17 / 2.6.18 will be ready
- afair zbyniu is still working on Xen - it could be released as an
update. 

> - current Ac ready will be included too
> - Ac main will be permanently frozen on September 24th

which reminds me to prepate the PECL stuff...

> In worst case scenario Ac will be released before December. Its not that
> far from now. After that we will need to maintain updates. As I can see
> from CVS commit logs, not many developers care about security/general
> updates in Ac. I simply can't take care of that by myself. 

> Therefore I'm asking: are there any volunteers for keeping Ac secure
> and up to date?

secure - yes - I try to monitor some of the security related lists

fresh  - yes - but we would need to have some general guidelines of what
               can be updated and what can not (like no sonames changes)

> If not, perhaps we should reconsider "always in developement" way of
> maintaining PLD?

I'd prefer to release Ac and try to keep it uptodate - I believe for
most of us it will be a good platform for servers for some time - and
these people will be interested in fixing at least security bugs.
Probably the same applies for desktop stuff. At least it does in my case.

With Ac declared `stable', Th will probably gain some more audience, and
provided that some of the base packages will be somehow stable, its
development would probably boost. 

> Everybody knows how Ra ended. We could say it was out of date the day it
> was released. I don't want Ac to end this way too. Thats why I'm open
> for all, even some major upgrades after releasing stable version.

That's why I am all for releasing Ac as fast as possible, so that it
doesn't necessary ends like Ra (outdated at release date).

Besides, I believe the situation is somehow better than in 2002, when Ra
was released - at that time Ac didn't actually exist. Th, at this time,
already has few thousands of packages and some group (small, but still)
of users.

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