From vancleef at microunity.com  Thu Aug  2 20:19:00 2001
From: vancleef at microunity.com (Bob Van Cleef)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sparc ISO ????
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108021116040.1195-100000@arwin.microunity.com>


Hi;

What is the possibility of getting a Sparc ISO created?

I would like to try this distribution on a Sparc10 I have
sitting on my desk...  It is currently running Debian. I have
another running RedHat 6.2.  Both distributions are "really old",
so I have been keeping my eye out for a newer distribution.

Bob



From mariusz at isn.pl  Mon Aug  6 00:10:54 2001
From: mariusz at isn.pl (Mariusz Mazur)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:10:54 +0200
Subject: docbook
Message-ID: <75907110.20010806001054@isn.pl>

Where is the sgmlparser required by docbook?


Mariusz Mazur
"One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"

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From wrobell at ite.pl  Mon Aug  6 09:32:45 2001
From: wrobell at ite.pl (wrobell)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:32:45 +0200
Subject: docbook
In-Reply-To: <75907110.20010806001054@isn.pl>
Message-ID: <20010806093245.C1615@pred.posexperts.com.pl>

On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 12:10:54AM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
> Where is the sgmlparser required by docbook?
opensp

    wrobell <wrobell at ite.pl>


From mariusz at isn.pl  Wed Aug  8 18:20:57 2001
From: mariusz at isn.pl (Mariusz Mazur)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:20:57 +0200
Subject: gcc
Message-ID: <7130239893.20010808182057@isn.pl>

How do I convince gcc to produce pure bytecode (no elf headers,
sections or else).


Mariusz Mazur
"One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"

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From malekith at pld.org.pl  Thu Aug  9 13:21:00 2001
From: malekith at pld.org.pl (Michal Moskal)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:21:00 +0200
Subject: gcc
In-Reply-To: <7130239893.20010808182057@isn.pl>
Message-ID: <20010809132100.B29251@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 06:20:57PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
> How do I convince gcc to produce pure bytecode (no elf headers,
> sections or else).

You possibly gotta convince as, not gcc. AFAIK gas hasn't got such
options, opposite to nasm (but this won't help you much...).
Anyway, how do you think you will run it w/o relocation info and stuff?

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From wiget at pld.org.pl  Thu Aug  9 14:46:52 2001
From: wiget at pld.org.pl (Artur Frysiak)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:46:52 +0200
Subject: gcc
In-Reply-To: <20010809132100.B29251@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>
References: <20010809132100.B29251@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>
Message-ID: <20010809144652.P24732@ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl>

On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 01:21:00PM +0200, Michal Moskal wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 06:20:57PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
> > How do I convince gcc to produce pure bytecode (no elf headers,
> > sections or else).
> 
> You possibly gotta convince as, not gcc. AFAIK gas hasn't got such
> options, opposite to nasm (but this won't help you much...).
> Anyway, how do you think you will run it w/o relocation info and stuff?

It's not true.
>From etherboot Makefile:

# general rule for .bin (plain binary loader code), may be overridden
bin/%.bin:  bin/%.s
    $(AS32) $(ASFLAGS32) -o bin/$*.tmp $<
    $(OBJCOPY) -O binary bin/$*.tmp $@
    $(RM) bin/$*.tmp

AS32=as
ASFLAGS32=

Regards
-- 
Artur Frysiak
http://www.pld.org.pl/


From malekith at pld.org.pl  Thu Aug  9 15:03:26 2001
From: malekith at pld.org.pl (Michal Moskal)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:03:26 +0200
Subject: gcc
In-Reply-To: <20010809144652.P24732@ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl>
Message-ID: <20010809150326.A32750@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>

On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:46:52PM +0200, Artur Frysiak wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 01:21:00PM +0200, Michal Moskal wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 06:20:57PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
> > > How do I convince gcc to produce pure bytecode (no elf headers,
> > > sections or else).
> > 
> > You possibly gotta convince as, not gcc. AFAIK gas hasn't got such
> > options, opposite to nasm (but this won't help you much...).
> > Anyway, how do you think you will run it w/o relocation info and stuff?
>
> It's not true.
> 
>  From etherboot Makefile:
> 
> # general rule for .bin (plain binary loader code), may be overridden
> bin/%.bin:  bin/%.s
>     $(AS32) $(ASFLAGS32) -o bin/$*.tmp $<
>     $(OBJCOPY) -O binary bin/$*.tmp $@
>     $(RM) bin/$*.tmp
> 
> AS32=as
> ASFLAGS32=

Well, as hasn't, objcopy is used to extract binary data.
Anyway, one should note, that .bin file is generated from .s
file, which is surly written with care, not to need any relocation.
I guess it will be hard to make gcc such code (maybe -fPIC can help
but I don't think so).

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:          |    |alekith      @    |)|(| . org . pl : {E--, W, w-,M}-
:                                  |                : {b,e>+}++ !tv h
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From mariusz at isn.pl  Thu Aug  9 15:20:11 2001
From: mariusz at isn.pl (Mariusz Mazur)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:20:11 +0200
Subject: gcc
In-Reply-To: <20010809150326.A32750@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>
References: <20010809150326.A32750@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>
Message-ID: <12710264519.20010809152011@isn.pl>

On 2001-08-09 Michal Moskal wrote the folowyng:

MM> On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:46:52PM +0200, Artur Frysiak wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 01:21:00PM +0200, Michal Moskal wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 06:20:57PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
>> > > How do I convince gcc to produce pure bytecode (no elf headers,
>> > > sections or else).
>> > 
>> > You possibly gotta convince as, not gcc. AFAIK gas hasn't got such
>> > options, opposite to nasm (but this won't help you much...).
>> > Anyway, how do you think you will run it w/o relocation info and stuff?
>>
>> It's not true.
>> 
>>  From etherboot Makefile:
>> 
>> # general rule for .bin (plain binary loader code), may be overridden
>> bin/%.bin:  bin/%.s
>>     $(AS32) $(ASFLAGS32) -o bin/$*.tmp $<
>>     $(OBJCOPY) -O binary bin/$*.tmp $@
>>     $(RM) bin/$*.tmp
>> 
>> AS32=as
>> ASFLAGS32=

MM> Well, as hasn't, objcopy is used to extract binary data.
MM> Anyway, one should note, that .bin file is generated from .s
MM> file, which is surly written with care, not to need any relocation.
MM> I guess it will be hard to make gcc such code (maybe -fPIC can help
MM> but I don't think so).


So how is linux kernel produced? It doesn't have elf headers does it?


Mariusz Mazur
"One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"

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From malekith at pld.org.pl  Fri Aug 10 14:10:27 2001
From: malekith at pld.org.pl (Michal Moskal)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:10:27 +0200
Subject: gcc
In-Reply-To: <12710264519.20010809152011@isn.pl>
Message-ID: <20010810141027.A13619@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>

On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 03:20:11PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
> On 2001-08-09 Michal Moskal wrote the folowyng:
> MM> Well, as hasn't, objcopy is used to extract binary data.
> MM> Anyway, one should note, that .bin file is generated from .s
> MM> file, which is surly written with care, not to need any relocation.
> MM> I guess it will be hard to make gcc such code (maybe -fPIC can help
> MM> but I don't think so).
> 
> So how is linux kernel produced? It doesn't have elf headers does it?
> 

There is separate loader written using 16 bit assembler, then, I guess
some startup in regular 32 bit assembler.

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:          |    |alekith      @    |)|(| . org . pl : {E--, W, w-,M}-
:                                  |                : {b,e>+}++ !tv h
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