From phil at hollenback.net  Mon Mar 12 20:11:06 2001
From: phil at hollenback.net (Philip J. Hollenback)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:11:06 -0800
Subject: Problems installing pld 1.0
Message-ID: <20010312111105.C2971@hollenback.net>

Hello,

I downloaded the PLD 1.0 CD image from your site and am attempting to
install it.

The CD boots fine, I see the usual boot messages, but then the screen
switches to 'press enter to unlock this console'.  Pressing enter does
nothing.

This is on a system with a Tyan motherboard and via apollo vp ide
controller.

P.

-- 
Philip J. Hollenback
philiph at pobox.com
AYBABTU


From dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de  Mon Mar 12 20:36:48 2001
From: dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de (Lukas Dobrek)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:36:48 +0100
Subject: Problems installing pld 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20010312111105.C2971@hollenback.net>; from phil@hollenback.net on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:11:06AM -0800
References: <20010312111105.C2971@hollenback.net>
Message-ID: <20010312203648.A31702@alya.uni-hannover.de>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:11:06AM -0800, Philip J. Hollenback wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I downloaded the PLD 1.0 CD image from your site and am attempting to
> install it.
> 
> The CD boots fine, I see the usual boot messages, but then the screen
> switches to 'press enter to unlock this console'.  Pressing enter does
> nothing.
> 
> This is on a system with a Tyan motherboard and via apollo vp ide
> controller.
First of all you have to know that we have no real installer.
Pressin enter should give you the console. Then this what you have to do
is to prepare the disk using fdisk;mke2fs;swapon and so on. I assume you 
know how to do it. Then you have to mount your new ROOT into /dest make 
there directorys which you need and then mount the rest of your filesystems
then if I remember well there are four important scripts addpkg, selmod,
addbase, doit.
addpkg I dont realy remember for what it is. It can give you the suport for
pcmcia, nfs, reiser, wget und stuff.
selmod gives you the posibility to load module with support for something
into the kernel like scis, eth0 so on.
addbase adds the basic stuff neded for instalation.
and doit start the instalation of packages. Im hope it is in english if 
not I promise to translate it soon.

Good luck and feel free to ask more. Finaly we will have some users
not only developers :)))


Take care, and let the force be with you.
	The Lord of the darknes
		Lukasz Dobrek




-- 
?ukasz Dobrek
Institut f?r Theoretische Physik
Appelstra?e 2, 30167 Hannover, Germany
e-mail:dobrek at itp.uni-hannover.de
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From s.zagrodzki at mimuw.edu.pl  Mon Mar 12 21:56:41 2001
From: s.zagrodzki at mimuw.edu.pl (Sebastian Zagrodzki)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:56:41 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Problems installing pld 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20010312111105.C2971@hollenback.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103122143070.7155-100000@sokrates.mimuw.edu.pl>

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Philip J. Hollenback wrote:
> The CD boots fine, I see the usual boot messages, but then the screen
> switches to 'press enter to unlock this console'.  Pressing enter does
> nothing.
oh yes, it does :)
It brings you the shell prompt. This is usually enough to install PLD ;))
First of all, create all neccessary partitions:
	fdisk /dev/hdX
Then, initialize swap partition and mount it:
	mkswap /dev/hdXX; swapon /dev/hdXX
Mount all your partitions into /dest and subdirectiories:
	mke2fs /dev/hdXX; mount /dev/hdXX /dest
	mke2fs /dev/hdXY; mkdir /dest/home; mount /dev/hdXY /dest/home
When everything is mounted, run addbase:
	addbase
This will create temporary directory structures in /dest/tmp. It'll
generate /dest/etc/fstab too - for future use :))
Mount your CD:
	mount /dev/hdXX /src
Then run selrpm <listname> - I recommend selecting base, and after
installation adding the rest of necessary pakages - you'll avoid
installing tons of junk packages...
selrpm will ask you some questions. Short translation[1]:

"Instalacja z katalogu/serwera FTP" == "Install from disk / FTP server"
"Wybierz program: prowizorka/wuch" == "Select installation application"
(choose "prowizorka")
"Czy chcesz zainstalowac pakiet..." == "Do you want to install..."
"Wybierz jeden z pakietow" == "Select one of the following packages"
"Czy chcesz instalowac dokumentacje" == "Do you want to install
documentation files" - man pages, info pages, /usr/share/doc/* and like
this.
"Czy przeedytowac liste pakietow" == "Do you want to modify generated
package list"
"Czy uruchomic program "doit"?" == "Run "doit" now?"

[1] Which reminds me I should translate it all into english :>

after finishing selrpm, chroot to /dest directory:
	chroot /dest bash
set password for root:
	passwd
update /boot/initrd (just in case :> )
	geninitrd -f /boot/initrd-2.2.18-14.gz 2.2.18-14
(or whatever kernel version you have)
create /etc/lilo.conf or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (depending of your
choice of lilo or grub during selrpm)
	vi /etc/lilo.conf
update lilo
	lilo
and voila. That's it :)) You may reboot now...

-- 
Sebastian Zagrodzki			s.zagrodzki at mimuw.edu.pl
UIN 1770835				http://sokrates.mimuw.edu.pl/~zagrodzki

A co mnie obchodzi, co pomy?l? inni...


From qrczak at knm.org.pl  Tue Mar 13 18:25:42 2001
From: qrczak at knm.org.pl (Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk)
Date: 13 Mar 2001 17:25:42 GMT
Subject: Y Window project startup
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103131243410.1707-100000@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>

Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0100 (CET), Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> pisze:

> Y Window project exist (few years :)

I couldn't find any alive project called Y Window.

-- 
 __("<  Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak at knm.org.pl http://qrczak.ids.net.pl/
 \__/
  ^^                      SYGNATURA ZAST?PCZA
QRCZAK


From wiget at pld.org.pl  Tue Mar 13 18:29:43 2001
From: wiget at pld.org.pl (Artur Frysiak)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:43 +0100
Subject: Y Window project startup
In-Reply-To: <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>; from qrczak@knm.org.pl on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:25:42PM +0000
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103131243410.1707-100000@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>
Message-ID: <20010313182943.C26124@free.buy.pl>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:25:42PM +0000, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:
> Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0100 (CET), Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> pisze:
> 
> > Y Window project exist (few years :)
> 
> I couldn't find any alive project called Y Window.

http://www.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/Y.html

Regards
-- 
Artur Frysiak
http://www.pld.org.pl/


From alchemyx at uznam.top.pl  Tue Mar 13 18:28:46 2001
From: alchemyx at uznam.top.pl (Michal Margula)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:28:46 +0100
Subject: Y Window project startup
In-Reply-To: <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>; from Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:25:42PM +0000
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103131243410.1707-100000@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>
Message-ID: <20010313182846.A5237@mephisto.px.pl>

[wtorek, 13 marzec 2001], Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk napisa?(a):

> Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0100 (CET), Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> pisze:
> 
> > Y Window project exist (few years :)
> 
> I couldn't find any alive project called Y Window.

Try "Y window" in Google.com :) I found it, full replacement (incompatible)
of Xwindow.

-- 
Michal Margula, alchemyx at uznam.top.pl, ICQ UIN 12267440, +)
http://uznam.top.pl/~alchemyx/, PL section of Linux Counter maintainer
"W ?yciu pi?kne s? tylko chwile" [Ryszard Riedel]
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From malekith at pld.org.pl  Tue Mar 13 19:24:45 2001
From: malekith at pld.org.pl (Michal Moskal)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:24:45 +0100
Subject: Y Window project startup
In-Reply-To: <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>; from qrczak@knm.org.pl on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:25:42PM +0000
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103131243410.1707-100000@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>
Message-ID: <20010313192445.A11749@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:25:42PM +0000, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:
> Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0100 (CET), Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek at rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> pisze:
> 
> > Y Window project exist (few years :)
> 
> I couldn't find any alive project called Y Window.

http://www.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/Y.html

Urgh...

-- 
                        Micha? Moskal <malekith at pld.org.pl>

I've run DOOM more in the last few days than I have the
last few months. I just love debugging ;-)
	-- Linus Torvalds

Nazi domestic disruption counter-intelligence NSA 
fissionable North Korea assassination NSA SDI Marxist 
security Clinton terrorist Panama Uzi domestic disruption 
[Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] Kennedy 
munitions security 
--


From qrczak at knm.org.pl  Tue Mar 13 20:10:33 2001
From: qrczak at knm.org.pl (Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk)
Date: 13 Mar 2001 19:10:33 GMT
Subject: Y Window project startup
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103131243410.1707-100000@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda> <20010313182943.C26124@free.buy.pl>
Message-ID: <slrn9ass59.f2j.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>

Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:43 +0100, Artur Frysiak <wiget at pld.org.pl> pisze:

> > I couldn't find any alive project called Y Window.
> 
> http://www.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/Y.html

I meant *alive*. I found only some short descriptions from 3 years ago.
Most links go to empty pages.

-- 
 __("<  Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak at knm.org.pl http://qrczak.ids.net.pl/
 \__/
  ^^                      SYGNATURA ZAST?PCZA
QRCZAK


From malekith at pld.org.pl  Wed Mar 14 12:14:19 2001
From: malekith at pld.org.pl (Michal Moskal)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:14:19 +0100
Subject: Y Window project startup
In-Reply-To: <slrn9ass59.f2j.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>; from qrczak@knm.org.pl on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 07:10:33PM +0000
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103131243410.1707-100000@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl> <slrn9asm0m.cos.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda> <20010313182943.C26124@free.buy.pl> <slrn9ass59.f2j.qrczak@qrnik.zagroda>
Message-ID: <20010314121419.D23823@aleph-0.aleph-0.dhs.org>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 07:10:33PM +0000, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:
> Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:43 +0100, Artur Frysiak <wiget at pld.org.pl> pisze:
> 
> > > I couldn't find any alive project called Y Window.
> > 
> > http://www.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/Y.html
> 
> I meant *alive*. I found only some short descriptions from 3 years ago.
> Most links go to empty pages.

I still don't think we can use this name. Even if the project is
dead.

Propositions of names:

NeTMI NEtwork Text Mode Interface (but see www.netmi.com, but i don't think
NoTMI NetwOrk Text Mode Interface
MINOS MINOS Is Not windOw System (used by some software package)
*INOX is not the Other X
*INAX is not another X

Maybe some more?

-- 
                        Micha? Moskal <malekith at pld.org.pl>

We are MicroSoft.  You will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile.
	-- Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates

[Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] quiche 
Ortega colonel SEAL Team 6 SDI Semtex domestic disruption 
Noriega Mossad NSA $400 million in gold bullion FBI 
arrangements supercomputer plutonium ammunition 
World Trade Center Cocaine colonel 
--


From phil at hollenback.net  Mon Mar 19 21:19:01 2001
From: phil at hollenback.net (Philip J. Hollenback)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:19:01 -0800
Subject: Problems installing pld 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20010312203648.A31702@alya.uni-hannover.de>; from phil@hollenback.net on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 08:36:48PM +0100
References: <20010312111105.C2971@hollenback.net> <20010312203648.A31702@alya.uni-hannover.de>
Message-ID: <20010319121859.D3769@hollenback.net>

Hi,

Thanks for the advice, but the problem is that at the 'Press <enter>'
prompt, pressing enter (or any other key) does nothing - the system
appears hung.

P.

On Pungenday, the 5th of Discord, Philip J. Hollenback spake:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:11:06AM -0800, Philip J. Hollenback wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I downloaded the PLD 1.0 CD image from your site and am attempting to
> > install it.
> > 
> > The CD boots fine, I see the usual boot messages, but then the screen
> > switches to 'press enter to unlock this console'.  Pressing enter does
> > nothing.
> > 
> > This is on a system with a Tyan motherboard and via apollo vp ide
> > controller.
> First of all you have to know that we have no real installer.
> Pressin enter should give you the console. Then this what you have to do
> is to prepare the disk using fdisk;mke2fs;swapon and so on. I assume you 
> know how to do it. Then you have to mount your new ROOT into /dest make 
> there directorys which you need and then mount the rest of your filesystems
> then if I remember well there are four important scripts addpkg, selmod,
> addbase, doit.
> addpkg I dont realy remember for what it is. It can give you the suport for
> pcmcia, nfs, reiser, wget und stuff.
> selmod gives you the posibility to load module with support for something
> into the kernel like scis, eth0 so on.
> addbase adds the basic stuff neded for instalation.
> and doit start the instalation of packages. Im hope it is in english if 
> not I promise to translate it soon.
> 
> Good luck and feel free to ask more. Finaly we will have some users
> not only developers :)))
> 
> 
> Take care, and let the force be with you.
> 	The Lord of the darknes
> 		Lukasz Dobrek
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Philip J. Hollenback
philiph at pobox.com
AYBABTU


From roman at student.ifpan.edu.pl  Wed Mar 21 11:00:47 2001
From: roman at student.ifpan.edu.pl (Roman Werpachowski)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:00:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Problems installing pld 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20010319121859.D3769@hollenback.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103211100160.17922-100000@student.ifpan.edu.pl>

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Philip J. Hollenback wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the advice, but the problem is that at the 'Press <enter>'
> prompt, pressing enter (or any other key) does nothing - the system
> appears hung.
> 
> P.

Pressing Enter enters you into the shell. Maybe that's the reason?

Roman Werpachowski

-- 
"pinfo jest dla mi?czak?w. Prawdziwi Linuxowcy czytaj? ?r?d?a groffa."
				
					gruesome na p.c.o.l.