From arnuld3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 08:27:46 2006 From: arnuld3 at gmail.com (arnuld) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:57:46 +0530 Subject: can PLD be my favourite distro? Message-ID: i am using Linux based GNU system from last 10 months, i threw away all of Windows based & Windows CDs into the fire :-) 8 months ago, as i made a decision to always use Free Softwares. anyway now i am using BLAG Linux. over the time i have spent a good deal of time with Debian & Fedora. here is the trouble i have now : i have found most of the things are "hidden" behind the GUIs, (exactly like Windows). I just do click, check some boxes & things are installed or configured leaving me in confusion when something wrong happens. now, from last 15 days i am getting irritated by GUIs, i can't focus on my work when i use GUI configuration but i do fine when it comes to "manual configuration" using files, i feel an attachment to this sentence "Gee.. in UNIX everything is file" i tried OpenBSD, which has quite old software, NetBSD takes 18 hours to get to work with a Desktop, a pinful task. i dont like FreeBSD, to me it feels like Fedora which i hate. i found PLD & Frugalware at WIKIPEDIA. Is PLD the one i am looking for? (i am learning programmer & i use GNOME all the time with "gcc") -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ From arekm at pld-linux.org Tue Dec 5 17:10:55 2006 From: arekm at pld-linux.org (Arkadiusz Miskiewicz) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:10:55 +0100 Subject: can PLD be my favourite distro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612051710.55848.arekm@pld-linux.org> On Tuesday 05 December 2006 08:27, arnuld wrote: > i found PLD & Frugalware at WIKIPEDIA. Is PLD the one i am looking > for? (i am learning programmer & i use GNOME all the time with "gcc") If you like playing with system configuration manually, digging into details, sometimes building stuff yourself from PLD cvs, providing fixes for things you have found then PLD is for you. If you need a system that's easy to install and doesn't require above then PLD is not for you. > -- arnuld > http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ -- Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz PLD/Linux Team arekm / maven.pl http://ftp.pld-linux.org/ From arnuld3 at gmail.com Tue Dec 5 19:26:44 2006 From: arnuld3 at gmail.com (arnuld) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:56:44 +0530 Subject: can PLD be my favourite distro? In-Reply-To: References: <200612051710.55848.arekm@pld-linux.org> Message-ID: Hai Arkadiusz, > If you like playing with system configuration manually, digging into details, > sometimes building stuff yourself from PLD cvs, providing fixes for things > you have found then PLD is for you. OK then, fro PLD 2.0-RC1 i have found 11 CDs. do i need all. i have aslow broadband connection & it downloads 1 CD per night. i just want to have GNOME, GCC, Firefox, Emacs, xterm running, everything else i can download later in free time. > If you need a system that's easy to install and doesn't require above then PLD > is not for you. well ,this is the way Fedora and every other Linux distro are following. i dont like them, rather i hate such *thought-processes* that lock you in confusion when you are confronted with a problem in your system. > Arkadiusz Mi?kiewicz PLD/Linux Team I am Arnuld Fraser the Copyleft-Volunteer ;-) -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ From undefine at aramin.net Tue Dec 5 19:56:15 2006 From: undefine at aramin.net (Andrzej 'The Undefined' =?iso-8859-2?Q?Dopiera=B3a?=) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:56:15 +0100 Subject: can PLD be my favourite distro? In-Reply-To: References: <200612051710.55848.arekm@pld-linux.org> Message-ID: <20061205185615.GB21528@aramin.net> On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0530, arnuld wrote: > > If you like playing with system configuration manually, digging into details, > > sometimes building stuff yourself from PLD cvs, providing fixes for things > > you have found then PLD is for you. > > OK then, fro PLD 2.0-RC1 i have found 11 CDs. do i need all. i have > aslow broadband connection & it downloads 1 CD per night. i just want > to have GNOME, GCC, Firefox, Emacs, xterm running, everything else i > can download later in free time. simplest rule to install pld is - never use cd's ;) download rescuecd, boot from it and.. install pld from network. download ~50mb packages is enought for install "base" pld. next, when you have "base" pld already installed it's easy to install additional packages, X, firefox, gnome by poldek. -- Andrzej 'The Undefined' Dopiera?a UNIX && Linux administrator, Adam Mickiewicz University WMiI PLD Linux Developer HomePage: http://andrzej.dopierala.name/ JID: undefine at piastlan.net e-mail: andrzej at dopierala.name From arnuld3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 06:39:51 2006 From: arnuld3 at gmail.com (arnuld) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:09:51 +0530 Subject: ISO download page does not exist? Message-ID: i wan ted to download LD Linux 2.0. it has 11 CDs & i tried to opent his web-page as mentioned on web-site: ftp://ftp.iso.pld-linux.org/2.0/ Firefox says: "Server not found" means page does not exist. all otehr pages are fine. Is this under maintenance? -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ From arnuld3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 06:48:07 2006 From: arnuld3 at gmail.com (arnuld) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:18:07 +0530 Subject: installing GCC 4.x and Xorg on rescue CD Message-ID: hai, after banging by head with PLD 2.0 ISO & not able to find them i am downloading Rescue CD. i have checked: ftp://ftp.pld-linux.org/dists/ac/PLD/i686/PLD/RPMS & found that it has GCC-C++ v3.3.6. i am working ona C++ project where i need 4.0 or 4.1. how can i install GCC 4.0/4.1 using Resue CD except of compiling from sources. i did some Googling but did not find anything. also if i want to install Xorg & GNOME, are these correct (i asume they will handel dependencies automatically): poldek -i xorg poldek -i gnome -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ From arnuld3 at gmail.com Mon Dec 25 06:54:47 2006 From: arnuld3 at gmail.com (arnuld) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:24:47 +0530 Subject: Rescue CD install Message-ID: >> OK then, fro PLD 2.0-RC1 i have found 11 CDs. do i need all. i have >> aslow broadband connection & it downloads 1 CD per night. i just want >> to have GNOME, GCC, Firefox, Emacs, xterm running, everything else i >> can download later in free time. > simplest rule to install pld is - never use cd's ;) ok i ahve followed you advice & downloaded the current Resce CD :-) > download rescuecd, boot from it and.. install pld from network. download ~50mb > packages is enought for install "base" pld. > next, when you have "base" pld already installed it's easy to install > additional packages, X, firefox, gnome by poldek. Andrzej, i am facing a lot of trouble as PLD documentation is incomplete :-( , i amnot able to know that how to install base system using Resuce CD, all i see are "network install" things. anyway i will put Rescue CD into drive & will play with it :-) -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/