cvs vs svn...

[Jakub Piotr Cłapa]

Paweł Sakowski wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 09:40 +0100, wrobell wrote:
> 
>>[svn log] -> few days please.
> 
> While we're at revolutionary ideas...
> 
> Currently %changelog doesn't really correspond to the CVS commit log. It
> is subject to truncation, editing (adding CAN entries, fixing typos,
> rewording). Furthermore, at some points it (here both changelog and
> commit log) simply restates the change made ("added BR foo-devel"), at
> others it has nothing to do with the change made ("rel 3. Nothing really
> changed in this spec, but that other patch got really improved"). Some
> places it just adds useless noise to the spec ("trying to do foo",
> "another attempt to do foo", "foo won't work anyway, reverting last 2
> commits") or just document flame wars ("last commit was issued by an
> idiot").
> 
> So, the crazy idea is to give up automatic %changelog generation and
> treat it more like a NEWS file (i.e. document important changes, not
> each invidual commit). I would imagine that a new %changelog entry would
> be added for each new release and state the reason that the new release
> is a Good Thing, rather than document each change (nobody really cares
> about "spaces->tabs"). Note: it's just a gut feeling that this is the
> kind of information that people reading the %changelog are actually
> looking for. I myself am not sure what exactly I need from the
> changelog, and it's important that a changelog isn't manually writter
> Ars Gratia Artis, but it actually brings useful information to the
> developers. If it turns out that the commit logs bear close resemblance
> to the information useful to the developers, the above idea is obviously
> pointless (I'm not that evil to make people write the same thing twice
> in the {commit ,%change}log).

IMHO developers need this info mostly on the pld-cvs list and not in the 
spec file. (and certainly not in the binary RPM) svn log -r1:HEAD gives 
a really nice changelog (together with the changes in the patches).

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Regards,
Jakub Piotr Cłapa