rpm 5.x in Th

[Łukasz Chrustek]

Witam,


> On Sep 23, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Łukasz Chrustek <lukasz at chrustek.net> wrote:

>> Hello,
>> 
>>>> 3. "when the disk isn't/wasn't working properly, every solution is utterly useless"
>> 
>>> You are clueless: saving state remotely permits an
>>> entire machine to be recreated when hard drives fail.
>> 
>>> Backups and off-site storage are well known remedies
>>> for hard drive failures.
>> 
>> You  are  writing  about  some  strange  (complicated  and not easy to
>> implement)  solutions. I like the rollback behavior in old rpm, it was
>> working  in  the way I expect. Now You, as author of rpm, are writing,
>> that  I'm  only  person in the world, which is using this option... If
>> so,  don't  bother  anymore,  but  leaving  this  option  in --help is
>> missleading for me, but as You stated earlier - only for me.
>> 

> I am trying to warn -- politely -- that you are in uncharted
> and unsupported waters if relying on --rollback as it used to
> exist in RPM.

OK,  understand. Now it isn't working anyway (and I think, that should
be  removed  -  but it is Your project), so I need to be more carefull
(to not have the reason to use --rollbacke) and write some scripts now
to make my own --rollback.


> Hint: I release @rpm5.org (and run continuous integration
> in buildbots) with repackaging enabled.

> Every distro I am aware of disables repackaging, and most
> user comments I have read suggest disabling to save disk space.

I'm  using  repackege,  and  I  think  that  in PLD there is more such
persons.  Now using repackege (FOR ME) will change, but I will use it,
because I'm testing some new versions, and sometimes I don't have time
to  finish  tests.  Then  I  ... yes - were using rollback to fast and
easly  return  to  working  version,  next day/night I could return to
testing  (this procedure were used by me _sometimes_ on production env
- after testing number of upgraded packeges by poldek -u -t package)

> Sorry: I get gang-raped repeatedly by trolls. These
> days I have zero tolerance:
>         You want a flamefest? Fine by me …

I  don't  want/need  flamefest.  This  'piece'  of You take to another
mailing list.

> But yes this thread is a total waste of time trivially solved
> by some minor thought and scripting.

> But --rollback in an RPM context is something other than a perl
> 1-liner.

Yes.  I  can  see.  But,  please  do  not  involve  some  file  system
transaction into it :)

-- 
regards,
 Łukasz Chrustek