From furio+sp at spin.it Fri Mar 9 17:34:46 2001 From: furio+sp at spin.it (furio ercolessi) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:46 2005 Subject: Hashed spools Message-ID: <20010309173446.G10428@spin.it> Hello list, I just subscribed. I would like to give a try to solidpop3d, however we have a two-level hashed spool ( /var/spool/mail/f/o/foo ) and I have to support that. I may try to put together a patch, however I am first attempting here to see if anybody already did that. Thanks in advance furio ercolessi Spin PS is there any list archive? From furio+sp at spin.it Fri Mar 9 18:11:54 2001 From: furio+sp at spin.it (furio ercolessi) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:46 2005 Subject: Hashed spools In-Reply-To: <20010309173446.G10428@spin.it>; from furio+sp@spin.it on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 05:34:46PM +0100 References: <20010309173446.G10428@spin.it> Message-ID: <20010309181154.B20399@spin.it> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 05:34:46PM +0100, furio ercolessi wrote: > Hello list, > > I just subscribed. I would like to give a try to solidpop3d, however > we have a two-level hashed spool ( /var/spool/mail/f/o/foo ) and > I have to support that. > > I may try to put together a patch, however I am first attempting here > to see if anybody already did that. Sorry everybody. I RTFM. It's in there already. furio ercolessi Spin From krooger at debian.org Thu Mar 15 01:08:05 2001 From: krooger at debian.org (Jonathan Walther) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: vmailmgr compatibility? Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Wasn't able to find this mailing lists archives so pardon if the question has been done to death a million times. I use qmail; I keep my "local" users mailboxes as mailboxes and not maildirs because I need to keep supporting pine. I got vmailmgr working great to store and forward messages for "virtual" users. solid-pop3d looks ideal for providing POP to everyone real and virtual, but could some hooks be added so I can still use the vmailmgr commands to manage the virtual domains? Specifically, the location and format of the user authentication db's would need to be compatible. If there is currently a way of making vmailmgr and solid-pop3d play nicely together, please let me know. From what I see they *almost* complement each other perfectly; I don't mind dumping vmailmgrs qmail-pop3d support. Jonathan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOrAH5sK9HT/YfGeBAQE7UgP/XDQ2koMOOxW71rlxodJTgHOG6FWApNZC FUY9z2T37IashJQCDfK4SsWhWrwPYJSVA4QSfe65lw0WOfUK6UFyyHFsvMH0XqsE T5krmKABeSsvHTLenhn12YHlOsjiRBEKBgW7Y8hNbd9oqUpWcBqrAxTWXpA4anhu rGToeh+xf5c= =1Xj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ben at blahr.com Thu Mar 15 19:19:44 2001 From: ben at blahr.com (Ben Schumacher) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: vmailmgr compatibility? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan- Although I don't have the answer to this question, I am looking for it as well. I am in basically the same situation, which is I want to use qmail with a custom virtual domain setup (not vmailmgr, but something I'm developing on my on) specifically because I want to be able to offer my users the ability to use a shell account and any number of mbox-based MUA's. Unfortunately, the people on the qmail mailing list aren't all that forth coming with a solution to this problem. (basically, they feel that anybody would be stupid to want to give their users the ability to use something they are comfortable with, versus using a design philosophy they feel is better.) I would be very interested in hearing any solution somebody would have for using spop3d with mboxes in directories that can be specified either from the command line or via an environment variable. Thanks, Ben On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Jonathan Walther wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Wasn't able to find this mailing lists archives so pardon if > the question has been done to death a million times. I use > qmail; I keep my "local" users mailboxes as mailboxes and not > maildirs because I need to keep supporting pine. > > I got vmailmgr working great to store and forward messages for > "virtual" users. solid-pop3d looks ideal for providing POP to > everyone real and virtual, but could some hooks be added so > I can still use the vmailmgr commands to manage the virtual > domains? Specifically, the location and format of the user > authentication db's would need to be compatible. > > If there is currently a way of making vmailmgr and solid-pop3d > play nicely together, please let me know. From what I see > they *almost* complement each other perfectly; I don't > mind dumping vmailmgrs qmail-pop3d support. > > Jonathan > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3ia > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBOrAH5sK9HT/YfGeBAQE7UgP/XDQ2koMOOxW71rlxodJTgHOG6FWApNZC > FUY9z2T37IashJQCDfK4SsWhWrwPYJSVA4QSfe65lw0WOfUK6UFyyHFsvMH0XqsE > T5krmKABeSsvHTLenhn12YHlOsjiRBEKBgW7Y8hNbd9oqUpWcBqrAxTWXpA4anhu > rGToeh+xf5c= > =1Xj9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: solidpop3d-list-unsubscribe@lists.pld.org.pl > For additional commands, e-mail: solidpop3d-list-help@lists.pld.org.pl > > From djw at lineo.com Thu Mar 15 21:14:07 2001 From: djw at lineo.com (Jonathan Walther) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: vmailmgr compatibility? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well Ben, if you aren't using vmailmgr, it looks like the latest spop3d does what you need; letting you mix maildir and mailbox access, and even handles the virtual domain stuff. One solution I'm considering is to let vmailmgr do the DELIVERY to the mailboxes, but ignore its vpasswd utility and just use that which comes with spop3d. Still, it would be nice if the two were compatible, or if the authentication mechanism could be abstracted out some way similar to how it is with qpop3d; then for the virtual domains I could say "hey, use vcheckpasswd", but for the rest it would use the default, perhaps scheckpasswd. And if it was pluggable modules, anyone could write another auth module so you could have almost any scheme. Does the author of spop3d subscribe to this list? Ben, can you give an example of what you mean by command line or environment variable configuration of mbox access? Whats wrong with using the config file? Cheers! Jonathan On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Ben Schumacher wrote: > Although I don't have the answer to this question, I am looking for it as > well. I am in basically the same situation, which is I want to use qmail > with a custom virtual domain setup (not vmailmgr, but something I'm > developing on my on) specifically because I want to be able to offer my > users the ability to use a shell account and any number of mbox-based > MUA's. > > Unfortunately, the people on the qmail mailing list aren't all that forth > coming with a solution to this problem. (basically, they feel that > anybody would be stupid to want to give their users the ability to use > something they are comfortable with, versus using a design philosophy they > feel is better.) > > I would be very interested in hearing any solution somebody would have for > using spop3d with mboxes in directories that can be specified either from > the command line or via an environment variable. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOrEikMK9HT/YfGeBAQHsVgP/VRTBolArOTLoHjXe7uwDYbYyDnBP3CSN zyaxRqJ8NwQE3Xb+J4UNqiVw6AVWoC+du7DvRz/otg7Sb8sIBULEwqh2vgHVPvyL pQ/iNH3olY6amkBoWwxB43PSBHbr1FaN2KhFLVWSlH5C/DEu+ms0MRiZz3efdKM4 9YhJc1lSG1A= =zLHa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ben at blahr.com Thu Mar 15 21:58:30 2001 From: ben at blahr.com (Ben Schumacher) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: vmailmgr compatibility? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe I'll have to check out the more recent version, but the last time I checked it didn't do quite what I wanted. Basically, I'm offering a solution to customers who do virtual domain hosting for websites. Ideally, I want to be able to allow them to have a choice of either using a shell based MUA or using POP3 for their mail, or a mix of both. Here's an example. Let's say a customer is hosting the domain of "example.com". For his email configuration, he needs to have email for sales@example.com to go to a POP3 box for his sales team, so they can use a GUI client. However, anything else @example.com should be delivered to the shell account example and go to the standard /var/mail directory. This is fairly easy to setup without using anything like vmailmgr. You can do this simply by setting up an entry in the virtualdomains file and setting up .qmail aliases in the users directory. For my setup, I choose to setup an alternate directory to store the mboxes for POP3 accounts, with a special directory structure. Basically a users POP3 box is stored in '/usr/boxes/[username]/[domain]/[address]', which makes it easier to keep track of who belongs to what belongs to where. This allows the system to have a fairly high level of customizability with respect to the fact that usernames can easily have multiple domains assigned, etc. Not the command line variable/environment variable idea was inspired by how qmail-pop3d works. IIRC with a qmail-pop3d setup, the checkpassword program actually does the bulk of the work, since it checks the person's password, changes to the appropriate directory and setuid's to the appropriate user. What I would like (ideally) is a POP3 program that works with mboxes that could provide similar functionality. Instead of changing to directory, however, it could just accept path to mbox from an environment variable and be setuid'd by an outside program, for example. I think that pretty much convers what I'm looking for. I know it sounds really complicated from the server side, but based on experience with a similar system, I know that it makes for very easy administration and good functionality for the customer. Thanks. Ben On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Walther wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Well Ben, if you aren't using vmailmgr, it looks like the latest spop3d > does what you need; letting you mix maildir and mailbox access, and even handles > the virtual domain stuff. One solution I'm considering is to let vmailmgr > do the DELIVERY to the mailboxes, but ignore its vpasswd utility and just > use that which comes with spop3d. Still, it would be nice if the two were > compatible, or if the authentication mechanism could be abstracted out some > way similar to how it is with qpop3d; then for the virtual domains I could > say "hey, use vcheckpasswd", but for the rest it would use the default, > perhaps scheckpasswd. And if it was pluggable modules, anyone could write > another auth module so you could have almost any scheme. > > Does the author of spop3d subscribe to this list? > > Ben, can you give an example of what you mean by command line or environment > variable configuration of mbox access? Whats wrong with using the config > file? > > Cheers! > > > Jonathan > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Ben Schumacher wrote: > > Although I don't have the answer to this question, I am looking for it as > > well. I am in basically the same situation, which is I want to use qmail > > with a custom virtual domain setup (not vmailmgr, but something I'm > > developing on my on) specifically because I want to be able to offer my > > users the ability to use a shell account and any number of mbox-based > > MUA's. > > > > Unfortunately, the people on the qmail mailing list aren't all that forth > > coming with a solution to this problem. (basically, they feel that > > anybody would be stupid to want to give their users the ability to use > > something they are comfortable with, versus using a design philosophy they > > feel is better.) > > > > I would be very interested in hearing any solution somebody would have for > > using spop3d with mboxes in directories that can be specified either from > > the command line or via an environment variable. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3ia > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBOrEikMK9HT/YfGeBAQHsVgP/VRTBolArOTLoHjXe7uwDYbYyDnBP3CSN > zyaxRqJ8NwQE3Xb+J4UNqiVw6AVWoC+du7DvRz/otg7Sb8sIBULEwqh2vgHVPvyL > pQ/iNH3olY6amkBoWwxB43PSBHbr1FaN2KhFLVWSlH5C/DEu+ms0MRiZz3efdKM4 > 9YhJc1lSG1A= > =zLHa > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: solidpop3d-list-unsubscribe@lists.pld.org.pl > For additional commands, e-mail: solidpop3d-list-help@lists.pld.org.pl > > From webmaster at validus.com Sun Mar 18 10:53:04 2001 From: webmaster at validus.com (Yoshi Melrose) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: Probably a stupid question Message-ID: <00b001c0af91$3aedde00$0214a8c0@enterprise> I have about 10 virtual domains, and they are non-ip based. My question is: do i have add a user for every email address? i.e. adduser [user] ? Sorry I'm not *too* familiar with the workings of mail on linux servers. If so, then my next question is how to handle same names for each domain. How do i handle multiple webmaster accounts? Thanks for any help!!! v2kthewebsite http://www.validus.com ----- "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and go. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time." - The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan From cpicton at users.sourceforge.net Mon Mar 19 11:43:23 2001 From: cpicton at users.sourceforge.net (Chris Picton) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: Long authentication times Message-ID: <20010319104323.AC26E43906@zero.usko.com> Hi I am running solid-pop3d reading from an nfs mounted mail spool I am using PAM authentication, authenticating off a radius server. When I telnet to port 110, and do a user/pass sequence, I have to wait about 16 seconds until I get the +OK authentication successful response If I run a perl script to check my radius authentication, the response is instantaneous. Also doing file operations on the mail spool has no delay. How can I debug where the delay in authentication is happening? -- Chris Picton Bytes Technology Group Systems Developer Chris.Picton@BTGNet.net From ben at plain.co.nz Tue Mar 20 00:20:11 2001 From: ben at plain.co.nz (Ben Aitchison) Date: Tue Dec 20 11:33:47 2005 Subject: Long authentication times In-Reply-To: <20010319104323.AC26E43906@zero.usko.com>; from cpicton@users.sourceforge.net on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200 References: <20010319104323.AC26E43906@zero.usko.com> Message-ID: <20010320112011.A30488@plain.co.nz> On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:43:23PM +0200, Chris Picton wrote: > I am running solid-pop3d reading from an nfs mounted mail spool > > I am using PAM authentication, authenticating off a radius server. > > When I telnet to port 110, and do a user/pass sequence, I have to wait > about 16 seconds until I get the +OK authentication successful response > > If I run a perl script to check my radius authentication, the response > is instantaneous. > Also doing file operations on the mail spool has no delay. > > How can I debug where the delay in authentication is happening? I was looking through why authentication wasn't instanteous before. It's because the whole mail spool for that user is loaded, and checked to be vaild before an "OK" is sent -- this can have problems for Outlook Express (maybe others too), which can timeout on large mail boxes. I tried changing it a while back, to give the OK first, but i can't remember what I did if the spool wasn't valid, or other reasons to not give OK and see if it'd help things and on testing over nfs with large files (just to make it go slow :)) it did help things quite a bit. I haven't tried it on anything real though (: BTW, I've used PAM/radius combination, but it's not that that's causing it, and my tests were done without it. Maybe this problem is different to yours though, as you say 16 seconds -- and do not mention how large your mail spool is. Ben.