Jacek Konieczny jajcus at
Thu Apr 23 10:25:00 CEST 2015

On 2015-04-23 10:04, Mateusz Korniak wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 April 2015 20:48:51 Jacek Konieczny wrote:
>>> Also, pip is the blessed way of installing the modules now, see
>> Yeah… blessed by developers, who don't care about system consistency
>> etc. (...)
>> We could probably minimize the damages pip can do (...)
> PIP can be easily used inside any Python virtual environment when really
> needed, so IMHO, there is no need to propagate PIP mess system wide, and we
> should system-wide installs be from rpms only by default.
> Not only many versions of same packages is problem with PIP, but we also lose
> track of library dependencies in binary packages.

But the PEP you linked above suggests that 'pip' and 'ensurepip' should 
always be available system-wide and capable of upgrading pip itself.

Even if we agree using those system wide is not a good idea, we should
make it work in a way, that minimizes the damages.


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