new user, and some questions/comments
John P. Looney
john at antefacto.com
Wed Apr 3 12:17:28 CEST 2002
I'm on the rpm-list, and I've noticed lots of PLD contributors on it.
That, and the fact that most of the cool RPMs on rpmfind.net are PLD ones
:)
So, today when my 2.4.17-pre something box died (filesystem corruption),
I decided to try out PLD. I'm only using it a few hours, so at the moment,
I'm really just seeing things I miss from my customised RedHat 7.2 box.
First, the installer:
I didn't want to install it on my old RedHat partitions, just
in case there was something there I could salvage. When I asked
to partition the disk manually, it quit, and started downloading
mod_ide & parted. I thought it was trying to start installing,
before I'd told it where, and got very upset, until I realised what
was going on.
The installer is a little too verbose - it prints each package as it
downloads & installs them. I'd no idea how long it would take, or what
it had installed, unless I was looking through everything.
I was also confused when the installer asked me what to do about
multilingual packages - I didn't know would it install packages with
just polish docs, if I chose english-only etc. That should be cleared
up.
I liked the detection of USB devices...but I've a USB mouse, and it
didn't see fit to create a /dev/usb/mice file. I had to do that myself
later.
I was quite surprised that there was no X configuration at all. So,
the network installer also had to download all the X modules for all
cards. Will there be one soon ?
There was also NIS configuration, or keymap configuration on startup.
Most likely because the developers don't use NIS, or different
keymaps.
Some other bits:
The boot was quite slow. I think there must be "sleep 1" buried
somewhere inside all of the cute '[BUSY]' bits on startup. I was very
used to /etc/init.d/<scripts> as I was used to Solaris and RedHat -
Does the LSB specify that /etc/rc.d/init.d should be used ? The lack
of a "service" command is annoying - I thought that was part of the
LSB too. I note that PLD uses lilo - why not grub ? It's so much
nicer.
I really like the modular approach to some complex RPMs, like apache.
Load of bits to choose from (I run a very lean apache). That said,
when the machine booted, it did moan that mod_auth_apache was
configured, but it had a "dbm_fetch" symbol undefined.
Also, it installs, but does not configure zmailer on install. So, I
sent a few mails in mutt, and it took ages to realise that I was
getting errors like:
Apr 3 09:16:28 bartender smtp[8812]: S392188AbSDCIxm: to=<ilug at linux.ie>,
delay=00:22:46, xdelay=00:00:20, mailer=smtp, relay=mail.tuatha.org
([194.125.145.45|25|172.24.1.104|1052]), stat=error2 ^M->> 250 Reset state
cvt=NONE
Apr 3 09:16:42 bartender router[2736]: S392188AbSDCJQb:
from=<mailer-daemon<@>>, rrelay=STDIN ("??"@bartender), size=6641,
nrcpts=1, msgid=<20020403091642Z392188-2736+23 at bartender>
in my maillog, without mutt reporting problems. This is really bad.
I've never used zmailer, so I tryed to work out where to configure it,
couldn't, ripped it out & put back sendmail (which at least is a one-line
"DS mail.antefacto.com" configuration).
I'm looking forward to using PLD over the next while. One BIG problem
I'm had was the lack of a 2.4 kernel. Is there one anywhere ? I have some
old stuff on ext3 filesystems - I've just downloaded a stock kernel from
somewhere, but I'd prefer if there was a SRPM I could customise instead.
John
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